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LilMaibe
11-18-2010, 04:50 PM
I'm awfully new to steampunk, even though it interessted me for quite a while. And well, I'm not only working on a webcomic with the topic, no, I also went as far as to pick my next cosplay from the finished character designs:

http://fav.me/d2yx378

Yes, the comic, and therefore the cosplay are an attempt to mash steampunk and norse mythology, just....I'm not certain:

Does this design, ( along with those two: http://fav.me/d2z0yge http://fav.me/d30h2km) actually count as what I was heading for or do they urgently need a steampunk-makeover/-improvement.

And how CAN I improve them if the need is there?

Thank you in advance for every bit of help.

Ironhill
11-18-2010, 07:38 PM
I like the designs overall. I think Hel's skirt should be longer, which would look more Victorian.

I could picture Odin having one machinical clockwork raven and one real raven.

glitter bomb
11-18-2010, 08:11 PM
I think yes, it totally counts. :) and they don't need some massive steampunk makeover unless you're trying to go way traditional. congrats on making the comic and character. :)

I'm personally more interested in steampunk that's not UK- or Victorian-centric, and in researching I've found that there appears to be a small but growing movement in that direction. So using other cultures is fine and your designs do not have to be Victorian. (Plus, there is quite a lot of historical support for incorporating influences from America and Asia, among other locations.) There's a great blog on multiculturalism in steampunk: http://thesteamerstrunk.blogspot.com/

As far as Norse mythology, well, steampunk is by definition anachronistic so I see no problem in working elements from that time period into steampunk. :) The nice thing about steampunk is that there are so few rules, the rules that do exist aren't rigid, and the genre is wide open for creative interpretation. I think that's what makes it fun. There are so many different ways to execute the basic concept that it's really really hard to do it "wrong."

grotesk_faery
11-18-2010, 10:58 PM
Needs more goggles, gears, etc.

LilMaibe
11-18-2010, 11:35 PM
I like the designs overall. I think Hel's skirt should be longer, which would look more Victorian.

I could picture Odin having one machinical clockwork raven and one real raven.

Well, that's what I was heading for at Odin XD
As for the skirt: I yet have to see what looks best on me (I even have to see if I'll actually do the leg-automail or not at the cosplay xx )

ThakYuki
11-19-2010, 01:17 PM
Needs more goggles, gears, etc.

No.

I love your designs! I just have one little question: what's the purpose of the bag on Hel's belt? To me it looks like a randomly placed, non-functioning bag which is throwing me off. (Perhaps it has some purpose I don't know about). I love the brass raven. I want one for myself now.

glitter bomb
11-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Needs more goggles, gears, etc.

I agree with ThakYuki that that is not the automatic solution. Only add goggles *if it makes sense for your character's job or activity.* Only add gears *if they have a purpose and you've planned out their placement.* This sentiment is echoed over and over and over on steampunk forums and blogs. I've seen some amazing steampunk costumes that had neither of those elements.

Slapping on goggles and gears does not instantly make everything steampunk. According to every steampunk source I've found, doing so makes you look like you're a clueless newbie or like you're too lazy to put thought into your costume. There's a lot more to steampunk than goggles and gears. A lot more. Sure, they've become iconic elements, but they became iconic because they were used with purpose by people entrenched in the culture. The lack of rigid rules in steampunk is refreshing, but that doesn't mean we have to be sloppy about it. It's one of the few times in cosplay that you can have unfettered creativity, so I say take advantage of it.

There are dozens of resources out there for steampunk fashion and props. Even a cursory viewing of those can provide inspiration and a better understanding of the aesthetic. Some of the top of my head.
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php
http://www.steampunktribune.com/
http://steampunkcostume.com/
http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion
http://www.flickr.com/groups/steampunkfashion/

LilMaibe
11-19-2010, 04:09 PM
No.

I love your designs! I just have one little question: what's the purpose of the bag on Hel's belt? To me it looks like a randomly placed, non-functioning bag which is throwing me off. (Perhaps it has some purpose I don't know about). I love the brass raven. I want one for myself now.

The bag is a scrollholder (forgot the correct term) in which she stores the list of the Coming attractions'

ThakYuki
11-19-2010, 07:20 PM
The bag is a scrollholder (forgot the correct term) in which she stores the list of the Coming attractions'

Ok, that makes sense.

Thank you, glitter bomb, for giving a more detailed response. I was too lazy to do so myself.

Ironhill
11-19-2010, 09:51 PM
Needs more goggles, gears, etc.

It would be easy to incorperate gears/industral look into the arm and leg. Even the scroll case could be steamed without overdoing it. The idea is to have elements of steampunk fasion without overpowering the effect.

LilMaibe
11-19-2010, 10:15 PM
Well, the mechanical parts will already get more gears (most of them even working/moving) :)

Thanks a lot to everyone and wish me luck with both, the comic and the cosplay :D

Fennius
11-20-2010, 03:14 AM
They aren't oviously very steam puk, and could work in a purely historical setting. That said, they also work just as well in a steam punk setting.

grotesk_faery
11-20-2010, 10:42 PM
glitter bomb and ThakYuki I was being facetious :) I know that that's not what constitutes Steampunk.

Purified Ace
11-21-2010, 02:53 PM
They aren't oviously very steam puk, and could work in a purely historical setting. That said, they also work just as well in a steam punk setting.

Absolutely right.

Your Odin and Loki designs are brilliant. Especially Odin. Very Victorian gentleman.
Because you are wanting to combine Steampunk and Mythology, I think this already works very well.

Braithcakes
11-21-2010, 11:44 PM
I think Hel's golden arm and leg are a bit too...gold.

maybe they should be a little more dull?

and also, I think her skirt needs to be longer, or maybe...have an underskirt...what do you call them? the little...things that give hoop skirts the shape, like cages. maybe she should have a brass skirt cage under?

I really like your odin design, but...if I may offer a suggestion(which you totally don't have to keep.) would it be cool if his raven was a real raven....with maybe....some sort of steampunk-cyber augmentations on its body?

LilMaibe
11-22-2010, 11:56 AM
I think Hel's golden arm and leg are a bit too...gold.

maybe they should be a little more dull?

and also, I think her skirt needs to be longer, or maybe...have an underskirt...what do you call them? the little...things that give hoop skirts the shape, like cages. maybe she should have a brass skirt cage under?

I really like your odin design, but...if I may offer a suggestion(which you totally don't have to keep.) would it be cool if his raven was a real raven....with maybe....some sort of steampunk-cyber augmentations on its body?

Well, hel's arm and legs are actually suppossed to be brass. I just lack the fitting copics Xx.
The skirt will be longer and have a pettitcoat, no worries XD. As for the ravens: I wanted to have one of them (as seen) completely clockwork while the other is real.