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Kuchikichan
01-08-2011, 08:23 PM
I am doing on of Esther Queen gown from Trinity blood.
Picture is at this link. http://www.animepaper.net/art/36892/trinity-blood-scan
Despite the fact my profile has only one cosplay on it (my first crappy cosplay, I've been to lazy to put up the more recent ones) I am an good seamstress with imtermediate historical knowledge and I have 6 months to finish this. Sadly most of my historical costuming knowledge is centered around middle class reniassance woman so I have no expirence with this kind of thing. I have some questions that I hope someone can andswer these questions. Is this an elizabethan shaped gown? (I know it is not strictly historical but I want to know what era the gown could be from) If not what time period could it be from? Should I put a hoop skirt, petticoats or a combination of both under the gown. What kind of corset will I need to get the period shape/look? Who sell good patterns for this time period. What kind of materials were used in this time period? Any other advice you may have will also be greatly apricated. I would love to have advice from somebody who does historical costuming and/or somebody who knows how to do this kind of thing. Thanks for listening to my rambling and thanks in advance for any advice.
Kuchikichan

FeyMeggan
01-09-2011, 01:07 AM
Well, first off you might get better results if you post in the TB thread (http://www.cosplay.com/forumdisplay.php?f=212); yes we're a bit dead, but that's cause most of them are at ALA this weekend. Second, I can answer a bit of these since I'm also working on White Queen Esther(though the artbook version, not the Untold Stories one). All versions of the Queen outfit of Esther are loosely based on Queen Elizabeth I's white gown seen here (http://www.sirbacon.org/graphics/lizatgrays.jpg).

Is this an elizabethan shaped gown?
Yes and no; yes it's an artists version of an elizabethan gown, but it is not historically accureate to the period. The bodice is more Elizabethan than anything else, the skirt can be just about anything it wants to be really. The standing ruff, and neck ruff are not(well, not as would fit together), and the cape-thing really isn't either.
Should I put a hoop skirt, petticoats or a combination of both under the gown.
Personally I feel this dress needs a good hoop skirt(minimum three hoops) with either a nice set of petticoats over them or a smaller crinoline. But that's to each their own.
What kind of corset will I need to get the period shape/look?
You can definitely use an Elizabethan corset; the little we see of her top indicates it gives you Queen Bess-boobs(really, all Elizabethan corsets seem to give you that, hence the nickname in my household).

As to the patterns I cannot say, I learned in the SCA to draft my own patterns, and materials really would depend on how 'accurate' you want to be. England during the 1600s would have had access to silk(non-slubbed), wool, linen and small amounts of cotton. You wouldn't have polyester, poly cotton blends or rayon; however, rayon is man made celuse, so it's technically very similar to silk.

I've done Elizabethan garb long before I did cosplay, and as I'm tackling this version (http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/TBphotojunkie/Esther%20Blanchette/scan086.jpg) of the same dress feel free to ask in the TB thread if you have more questions.

Kelley
01-09-2011, 11:42 AM
Is this an elizabethan shaped gown? I can't really tell from that picture, she's sitting down and most of the "important" parts of the dress are obscured. o: It looks like maybe it is ? But I'd need better pictures.

Should I put a hoop skirt, petticoats or a combination of both under the gown Well, you always put a hoop-skirt AND petticoats unless you want it to get that nasty look where the ribs show through (and there might be a costume designed that way on purpose). If it needs a hoop or both will depend on what it looks like when she's standing up - if the skirt is too wide/poofy for just petticoats to support.

What kind of corset will I need to get the period shape/look? It depends on the art. I can't tell from the picture. Maybe you need an Elizabathan corset. Maybe you need a Victorian one - a lot of artists stick that shape on to out-of-period costumes. Hard to say with the obscured picture.

Who sell good patterns for this time period. I couldn't say until we can figure out exactly what patterns you need at all. o:

What kind of materials were used in this time period? It's really hard to answer these questions when I'm not even sure what the dress looks like, sorry. I recommend you look at a web-site like http://elizabethancostume.net/ if that's what you think it is, based on other pictures.