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02-28-2011, 05:01 PM
So after watching various cyberman thigns I've decided to make a classic series costume.
Now I don't have the money or resources to do an super amazing one, or even afford a wetsuit to spray paint, so I'm making my own 'transition' one.
Overall I prefer the 60s era to the 80s, as they are far creepier. Not just in mannerism(but majorly that) but also soemthing I've only recently realised that all cybermen since the 60s have lacked. Simple faces. The problem with the later ones, and many redesigns is that they are too detailed. The perfectly smooth face with no details except a slit mouth and indented eyes is just human enough to be recognisable but the very smootheness shows the emotionless and laienness of the creature. Add too much detail and it doesn't work.
This is actually good for me since I don't want to make lots of detail. :)
Now for the basic suit I will be using this:
with the logo removed and obviously minus the hood. Not ideal I know - and more in suiting with the 80s designs - but I'm on a budget here.
I shall be going for Tomb style tubing and practice golf balls, tubing in black, golf balls in silver, lining the arns and going to the chest unit.
The golf balls will either be sewn on(maybe a bit of glue as well) whole, or possibly cut in half and used as domes(so they stick off less and hopefully look less silly). However by doing that, the tubing will likely no longer match up as well, unless I manage to cut it well. I'll desiced when I get it. I'll probably try to glue the tubing to the balls and leave it mostly unattatched to the arms, but I might glue down along the length in some or all places.
As for the chest unit itself..well cardboard boxes will likely form the base, then papier mache on top. Not certain yet how I'll attach it though. I'll go for one of the slightly later ones with the light/circle at the top, and maybe a sligght dip on the bottom. I'm thinking of having an actual light I can switch on and off and ideally with sound. Although I have always liked the Revenge head guns, I don't see how I can do that with flares(at least more than once) and I'm not sure it would look as good with lights[too silurian] so I'll go for the Invasion chest gun, which I also like. I don't know how to do that, but a friend of mine might so I'll ask him about it. Haven't yet decided on the exact details but the centre panel will probably have a grill, possibly panelled versions of this:
Now, the biggie. The helmet. I have two main options the way I see it. I can cosntruct the helmet from scratch - probably using a hard hat with suitable features to build on as a base, then maybe ballon formed papier mache for the face and back. Not sure about the handlebars then though.
Or I can try to build up from a pre-existing one. I will likely be getting one of those cybermen voice changing helmets anyway for the voice modulator(on that note: does anyone know how good it is? Or of any better sorts).
Now I COULD just gut the helmet for parts, taking the modulator, the handlebars(though they may not be my ideal choice, might have to take the 'ears' as well, we'll see how it goes), the tinted eye stuff, and possibly the head and nose support bits from inside.
Or I could try to fill up the gaps somehow to turn it into a smooth face. Maybe placing card over the recessed parts and papier mache over? The biggest problem then might be the connecty bit at the top of the head, I was thinking of getting a revenge stly gun there(even if it's not fired as such) and so would need to build out from the original bit with cardboard. If I do this I think its my best bet, though it would probably end up larger than ideal. Still it should be possible. The problem after that is the backplate(the voice changer mask doesn't have one), I suppose it could be possible to make a papier mache one(maybe also a neck/chin piece) though I'm not sure how to attatch it. Or I might be able to just snip up the hood from the astronaut costume and use it as a simple version(wouldn't look as good though.)
Anyway, anybody have thoughts or advice to offer?
02-28-2011, 05:52 PM
Here's a really bad picture of my concept art. Normally I'd photoshop it to make it easier to see, but I don't have PS in this machine.:(
If you look closely you can see some of my ideas for converting the voice changer helmet.
02-28-2011, 06:35 PM
Oh and I also bought a hand buzzer so I can zap people. :D
03-01-2011, 02:49 PM
Invered(so you can see SLIGHTLY better) image of what I want the chets unit to look like. Spoken with the wise guru of electronics (friend of mine) and the plan:
Left(as you face it) unit - Switch to activate lights, push button for 'gun'. Below it a metal grill covering a white cloth, covering a series of lights that blink.
Middle unit - Main light for the gun, speaker(s) hidden behind main grill, diamond mesh over black fabric.
Right unit - Ice cream tray with lights in each box, fan grill from above, random greebling.
I've also started experimenting with cutting up cardboard to get the base of the chest unit done.
03-04-2011, 08:15 AM
Concept testing. This would be smoothed over with papier mache.
I should finish the cardboard base for the chest unit tonight.
03-04-2011, 11:52 AM
Next up - snip out side panels and papier mache to harden it. Though thats not actually the light that will be used.
03-07-2011, 05:42 AM
Looking great, man.
Oh and I also bought a hand buzzer so I can zap people. :D
03-07-2011, 12:12 PM
Suit, paint, balls, ice tray, and hand buzzer have arrived. I will paint the balls first and hopeully get them on tonight, I'll also start experimenting with the ice tray(s). The buzzer looks pretty rubbish, it's actually electric(surprised at that) which does come with a warning about age and medical conditions, but more importantly unless you are touching the contacts with seperat fingers it doesn't have any noticable effect. I wanted one of the wind up ones that are rather more noticable.
Edit: Scratch that, putting it to the neck has a VERY noticable effect!:D
Also the first layer of papier mache is done on the base for the chest unit.
editedit: Well the silver spray I'm using for the other bits has little to no effecton the suit other than making it smell of paint, so I'm going to look into fabric paints. Preferably just a duller metallic colour rather than grey, since they were actually silver. I also need to get gloves - since the ones with the suit assume inhumanely long fingers - and wellies to replace the boot covers.
03-08-2011, 07:29 AM
Tubing arrived, though much smaller than I thought it was. I'll probbly use it for some bits, but I need a thicker one for the arms and legs.
03-09-2011, 08:01 AM
- For now anyway, I shall probably keep the suit as is. The old ones were pretty shiny after all.
- Attempting to chop up and sew the gloves into the three fingered versions. May not keep.
- Glued a couple of half balls on, but the glue wont stick the tube to them. Possibly becuse of paint.
- Helmet has arrived, here's my work so far:
- I may use the base of a bayonet ended bulb in place of the 'headlamp'
03-10-2011, 05:07 PM
Here's the current progress on my (now earless) helmet:
Its starting to look less cybusy, and hopefully will be almost unrecognisable once the cheeks are done.
I've given up tyring to attatch the tubing to the balls since a) the glue wont do it and b) a half practice golf ball is not a real joint, there may be issues moving it(this may in fact be related to why they're attatched to the suit in the originals). I am to get most of it done tonight, and maybe tomorrow morning, leaving only the connections to the chest unit. And MAYBE the forearms. I might have the ball for that on the actual glove instead of the sleeve. Or I could have it on the sleeve, then two tubes heading off actually INTO the glove, which might look more roboty. I've been considering wearing something under the suit to give the impression that its not just flesh udnerneath, but I'm not sure what.
I'm levaing the suit shiny since they are always refered to as the silver giants, not the slightly shiny grey giants. :)
03-11-2011, 02:06 PM
Looking good! Keep it up.
03-11-2011, 08:22 PM
Here's the helmet:
I'm unsure of how it looks right now, hopefully it will look better once details and paint are done. Definately unsure about the 'hedlamp' area. I think I made it too large for such a small greeble.
About 90% of the tubing is done, just need to finish the right thigh, and do the back waist. I'm leaving the lower legs and the hands until I get the gloves/boots, and the front bits until the chest unit is done.. Gave up on gluing about halfway through and instead sewed the ends on. Works on the arm thats like it, but for the legs I might sew in the middle as well.
03-12-2011, 12:34 PM
The helmet is far from finished, but I thought I'd give it a quick coat to see how it looked. More rocketeer than cyberman. :)
03-12-2011, 04:11 PM
Very unsure about the gloves, but I'll keep them until I find something better. On the plus side they're thin and alrge enough that the three fingered thing doesn't impede manipulation much.
03-18-2011, 04:33 PM
I might keep the gloves actually, they have a certain weirdness to them I kinda like. Though they will probably need furthur modification.
I may also remake the chestunit smaller, as right now it is very big. I planned it in my head before I realised how small the originals actually were. Although a lot of its bulk comes from how far out it sitcks so I might try andf trim it down first,
Making the base for a neckplate tonight, tomorrow I plan on smoothing up some papier mache, doing more neckplate, and maybe adding ridges to the front.
03-19-2011, 01:26 PM
03-24-2011, 07:04 PM
I'm really quite happy with how the chin and neck have made it so much more classic than cybus.
The neckplate will e wider, and eventually go all the way around, but I can't do the back until I've got the speaker sorted. At the moment its only had one coat of papier mache so it still needs stiffening up. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get a preview paintjob done, until my friend gets the electronic gubbins I'm almost finished on what I can do on the helmet, except for planning out the actual backplate. Unsure about how to do that though.
One problem is that because the eyes are so recessed, and I can't bend my head much, I have a total blind spot along the floor for about five feet in front of me. I anticipate much bumping into things. :)
Oh and it does tend to fog up my glasses inside. Maybe covering up the airholes wasn't the best plan. :D
03-25-2011, 08:35 AM
Still need to smooth everything out of course, but I think it looks pretty good.
03-26-2011, 10:00 AM
I've been thinking about the crinklyness, and how no matter how much papier mache I use there will still be some, so I might either get some modelling clay to smooth it out, or I could experiment with 'pulp' papier mache. Never done that one before though so I don't know how well it will work.
Here's a preview:
Chest unit is definitely too big though, I'll be remaking it much smaller, maybe more like the Invasion style.
04-12-2011, 04:04 PM
Update! Sort of.
No work done on it, but I have decided not to bother trying to up the volume - too much hassle for not enough gain. I'm also going to try an attached solid back-plate, as if the front is anything to go by it should be just flexible enough to let me get my head in. If it can't, I'll snip it off(the backplate, not my head!) and attatch it with magnets.
My experiments with pulp have been something of a failure(can't get it fine enough, blender just jams if I try it) so I'm going to try and get some sort of filler to smooth it out.
Also cut some slits in the chin so I can breather. :D Need to work out something neater though.
Acquired, attempting to sand/cut label off and that's not going great, may just cover up. Will start painting tomorrow probably.
Will get my mum(she can sew, I can't :D ) to try and downsize these so they are wearable by humans.
Currently in three pieces, bit yet mached to hardness. Much smaller and a better fit.
The mid section, as before, will have a light and a grill. Grill is ready, the 'death ray' will - for now at least - just be a push light. In the future I may add a speaker and a button for both, but for now I can't be bothered.
The right(wearer's) section has the ice cube trays and will have alternating white and blue battery powered Christmas LEDs. 20 for twelve boxes though so I may have some sprouting up in other bits.
The Left is currently blank, I'm quite undecided what should actually go there.
I hope to assemble and mache the unit tomorrow.
04-14-2011, 04:44 PM
Right, still need to paint the chest unit, add the buttons and stuff as details below the panels, and at some point in the future add sound effects and a switch for the main light. I'll also have tubing connecting it to the suit, and need to add a back that I can attatch velcro too. But other than that I'm really pleased with it. Hard to see but I've used some brass etching from an odl model I never made as exposed circuitry.
Click the pic for a vid. :D
04-15-2011, 11:20 AM
Done! Well almost, the top light isn't stuck in yet and I need to find a way to get it attached to the suit, but after that its just a matter of pushing four bits of tubing in. :D
04-29-2011, 03:04 PM
Helmet's (sorta) done. Needs painting, and a couple of touch ups. bloody hard to breath though so I'll look into punching cheek holes. Problem is that the cheeks aren't' flat surfaces, there's a gap between the mache and car and the plastic.
I'm unsure about keeping the light or not. It makes my mouth sorta visible, which worked in Earthshock.
Also I must have had my head forward when molding the back as now I have to go around looking down a bit. Which is good really, means I can see the floor. :D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF3xiFZJWFs)
04-30-2011, 08:36 AM
This is looking great! Have you thought about sanding down the wrinkles on the neck a bit?
05-01-2011, 05:13 PM
Yes, but since unless I make the mache a lot thicker there's not much I can do there without breaking it all. Fixing that is on my eventual wishlist though.
Sorta. In order to breathe I first did the circle of cheek holes ala Tomb but that wasn't enough so I added more in the chin. Unfortunately the only effective place was where the mache was weakest and end result is a dent/tear/hole in the chin. Its acceptable but ugly and at some point I may try and fix it up while still letting enough air in. But for now I'm calling it done.
05-09-2011, 06:56 PM
Clearer picture. Barring some possible helmet touch ups to the chin and maybe making the backplate more secure, I'm declaring this officially finished.
Now to start planning an Ice Lord...:D
05-28-2011, 08:49 PM
Ahhhh I can't believe the lack of commenting in here. This thing looks GREAT! LOVE the old Cybermen!
05-29-2011, 03:17 AM
AWESOME COSTUME!!! (It's so good it had to be in Capitals. I Can't believe I missed this thread [Kicks TARDIS and tells her off for skipping it].
It looks brilliant and excllent work I mean wow its brilliant and I woudl so love you to come to mine with it out my mother would have a fit (She is petrified of Cybermen).
06-03-2011, 11:05 PM
this is just so badass.
06-09-2011, 06:26 PM
Thanks all. I wore this to the saturday of the MCM London Expo. Here's some pics:
"I require a beret and a turtleneck."
"Thank you for choosing Mondas Tours. If you look behind me you will see crowds of weak, emotion fueled humans, ripe for conversion. To your right is the gift shop."