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ModernPrincess
04-27-2012, 02:19 PM
I plan to cosplay Miss Charlotte La Bouff (http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/15/30528/Clipboard01.jpg) from Disney's Princess and the Frog this next year, and I was wondering what the best way to go about making a Panier was. The thing is I can't buy it because it needs to be over-exaggerated and go around the back as well. Anyone have any ideas or tutorials I should be looking at?

Sarcasm-hime
05-17-2012, 12:54 PM
I used the Simplicity pattern 3635 (http://www.simplicity.com/p-1953-costumes.aspx) for my butterfly dress (http://www.cosplay.com/costume/394045/). I used hoop steel from Farthingales (http://farthingales.on.ca/products.php?cat=hoopsteel).

If you need it wider you could just modify the pattern width-wise and adjust the length of the hoops accordingly.

sinsoo
06-12-2012, 05:57 PM
I actually am planning to do a Lottie cosplay as well. My main issue is how to get the volume in the back of the dress.
The silhouette is closest to the 1750s French court dresses, but when she is tripped at the party you see she is wearing a hoopskirt closer to those in 1860.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno4_1280.png

To add on to the inaccuracy of wearing a pannier, she has a bunch of volume in the back of her dress as well. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno3_1280.pnghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno2_1280.png

I don't think a full petticoat will do me much good with how voluminous her dress is. I was thinking of constructing a large bustle piece that I would wear separate from the pannier. However I am not sure how I would make such a piece or where to even begin. Any advice?

sinsoo
06-12-2012, 06:05 PM
Whoops. Posted a question earlier and the images were way too big, sorry. uwu;;
So I am doing a Lottie cosplay as well, and I was planning on using a pannier since the silhouette of her dress most closely resembles a 1750s French court dress.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno1_1280.png

However the issue arises that her dress is extremely voluminous in the back, something a pannier would not give.
Reference 1 (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno2_1280.png)
Reference 2 (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno3_1280.png)

Further, it is shown later she is wearing a hoopskirt that resembles those most closely those in 1860.Reference 3 (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5iui5ev7K1qitkzno4_1280.png)
I doubt a petticoat will give that much volume so I was thinking of constructing a separate, large bustle that I would attach separately above my pannier. However I am not sure how I would construct such a piece, nor do I really know where to start. Any advice?

ModernPrincess
06-13-2012, 02:11 AM
@ sinsoo

This is the same problem that I have been having. What I think I'm going to do is make an altured panier that will sit over a hoop skirt, with a thin petticoat over the metal layers.

redsheep
06-13-2012, 02:03 PM
Getting a large enough hoopskirt to do something like this (http://www.twainquotes.com/hoopskirt.jpg) is what you may be needing. You could take some string and sew it on the inside of the front of the hoopskirt, then tie them behind your back to get it to pop back. A couple of really fluffy petticoats on top should help to add a little more poof. The skirt would have to be very long in order to now rise up with the ridiculous volume.

ModernPrincess
06-16-2012, 01:07 PM
Getting a large enough hoopskirt to do something like this (http://www.twainquotes.com/hoopskirt.jpg) is what you may be needing. You could take some string and sew it on the inside of the front of the hoopskirt, then tie them behind your back to get it to pop back. A couple of really fluffy petticoats on top should help to add a little more poof. The skirt would have to be very long in order to now rise up with the ridiculous volume.

I have twenty yards of pink taffeta that 72in wide. I'm good~ xD
But I didn't even think of making a large hoop skirt...and now that I look at it, that's totally what she has. Thanks for the info!

Ororo Monroe
06-26-2012, 10:00 PM
I want to say they way they got that puffy look back in the 1830's was to also wear a pillow bustle over the corded skirt (this was before they had wire crinoliness/hoops) but under the outer skirts. Pillows where feather, varied for the desired shape (arm, butt, etc.) with strings to tie around the arm, waist, etc. Does that help?

Also, it may look puffy like that because the front of the crinoline is being pushed back. Like a bell, when one side is pushed the whole shape moves. The best example I can think of is the Hans Christian Anderson movie/musical with Danny Kaye. The song, "No Two People Have Ever Been So In Love".

Heavens, I can't believe I admitted that. That almost as bad as admitting I know all the Gilbert and Sullivan Opera's. Which I don't and I'm not....:walkoff:

ModernPrincess
07-21-2012, 03:48 PM
@ Ororo Monroe

Thank you so much for the info! <3

And that's okay. :3 I've seen just as many (probably maybe).

snapdragon
08-14-2012, 02:11 PM
Someone had a great tutorial on using flat hoses from the hardware store for super cheap, super light panniers that are STRONG. http://www.mistressofdisguise.com/2011/09/some-quick-cheap-panniers-that-dont.html

Good luck!

marielabouff
08-15-2012, 12:42 AM
i think all u need is a crinoline or caged crinoline like ones they used in the 1800s to give a dress more volume and petticoat netting. u can cunstruct a crinoline to any size, shape, width and hight u want so the shape can fit the one like charlotte's. then sew up a petticoat to use as an under skirt with alot of layers and put it on top of the crinoline to add even more volume, poof and flow. and dont forget to make the petticoat the same length so the dress does not look like a lamp shade. to give the back extra volume just sew more petticat netting there. and make sure fabrics and the petticoat netting is light enough to give the dress that same bounce as charlotte's. THANK U.:heart:

marielabouff
08-15-2012, 12:47 AM
i think all u need is a crinoline or caged crinoline like ones they used in the 1800s to give a dress more volume and petticoat netting. u can cunstruct a crinoline to any size, shape, width and hight u want so the shape can fit the one like charlotte's. then sew up a petticoat to use as an under skirt with alot of layers and put it on top of the crinoline to add even more volume, poof and flow. and dont forget to make the petticoat the same length so the dress does not look like a lamp shade. to give the back extra volume just sew more petticat netting there. and make sure fabrics and the petticoat netting is light enough to give the dress that same bounce as charlotte's. THANK U.:heart:

marielabouff
08-15-2012, 12:54 AM
i think addind a pillow bustle to the back and covering it with petticoat netting will help the back problem