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daylight
01-20-2013, 01:07 AM
So of course with all new conventions there are always going to be issues with smaller attendance numbers, smaller budgets, and organization issues

I was at the first AM2 in 2011, but I decided not to go last year due to the lack of guest announcements through the year and the fact that there was no musical GoH, Ive heard a few rumors as to why the guest list was smaller for the 2012 year, but they may have been just rumors

from what I have seen in reviews I gathered that the second AM2 was possibly even worse then its first year

there was not much to do on their first year, but at least I got to see Sadie, it made the whole Con worth going to


so my question is,
do you think AM2 will improve for its 2013 Con, and conventions in the future?
will they be able to get Japanese guests of honor again?


what are your thoughts on this?

sicdedman
01-24-2013, 10:05 AM
I did not go 2011 because it was on the same day as AX and with already knowing what to expect from AX i went there.

I did attend AM2 2012, it was ok not the best. The fashion guest of honor was cool talked to fans ect always had smile on their faces! got to sit and talk with them for almost an hour.

GOH were good (Andrea Libman) & (Tara Strong) it's funny since seeing (Tara Strong) at Am2 i see her everywhere now (Comikaze Expo) (EQLA).

but I was REALLY hoping that there would have been at least 1 Big name Musical Guest.. but sadly no. I think they over did it 2011 Am2 and possibly could not afford to bring over another Big Musical Performance after Already having (Sadie) (Kanon Wakeshima) (Kanon) (Scandal)
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i was not impressed with the dealers hall.
The artist Alley was ok, but i heard some attendee's complaining that a few of the Artist alley Artists were treating like like crap.
the Stage next to artist alley was the Wrong location - should have been moved somewhere else (Artists were complaining bout the noise) & their was a meeting or something going on - i think it was Sunday when Lucid was playing so the Meeting complained and the Convention workers shut off the power to their set- something along the lines of that, it was ridiculous.

AM2 will always have Japanese GOH they did for 2012 even if they are not Big named Guests - Can't always have the Biggest names all the time - Chase & Staff have Connections so yea, Japanese guests will always be at Am2!

People are complaining about AM2 2013 because it's not really Free anymore it is like $5-$10 for Regular Access... it's like REALLY people are complaining because they can't get in FREE again?? try and find something worth complaining over.... everyone WANTS stuff for FREE it amazes me.. its like they are Entitled to it or something... I'm sorry but if you WANT Japanese Guests and Musical Acts you have to PAY for Am2 to bring them.. money just does not appear out of the wallet like (Oh yea! another $20!)

just a bunch of Stupid stuff happened over AM2 (nothing major) just minor things that can be fixed!! They are still trying to find their feet - Also trying to Please Everyone is never going to happen at ANY Convention.

It won't stop me from going because I Support Chase & Staff of AM2 they are Awesome people! All the hard working Staff that help try and make (Attendee's) time worth remembering!!! So I will be attending 2013 Because I have Faith that Am2 will be better this year! They just need (Attendee) Support to make it happen! Convention Success can only happen with Support from (Attendee's)!!

El_Duque
01-24-2013, 12:01 PM
Yes and No...

If they adjust and move to a smaller venue such as a large hotel with a large area for big events I can see them lasting longer by cutting down on spending on huge unnecessary convention space. So far, they have made blunders that have just hurt them. First year they went up against AX and I believe they did alright but it looked like they spent all of their money getting Japanese GoHs like SCANDAL and Kanon Wakashima trying to outdo AX.

Last year seemed like a con you would go for only a few hours and leave. No big time GoHs and I heard that Artists and Vendors were pissed off that they barely made anything that weekend since many attendees were assuming they would be at AX a few weeks later. Being a con in June sandwiched between Fanime and AX sounds to be a not so great idea.

This year they are already at a disadvantage with being on a weekend with a con that has a big reputation and huge financial backing in Japan Expo which will be held in Santa Clara, so there goes your potential attendees coming down from the Bay Area out the window.

AM2 can only get better if they would stop thinking big and make tiny steps year after year. What con was able to make a huge splash in its first year?

Access
01-24-2013, 05:46 PM
To me, in the end, most of these things come down to people.

When they banned Kris for no apparent valid reason, I was like 'feh, what are these people thinking'. Then I saw the guest list and also heard from some of the dealers I knew that they would not be attending.

I didn't go that year (family stuff). I did talk to a mom who went with her daughter and she enjoyed it (her daughter is really into MLP). Honestly I can't say it is a good match for me or that I would have enjoyed it had I gone.

A-list stars that haven't been seen in the US before, bring a couple of those and I will gladly pay $50. or even $100. to see them play.

I haven't seen their financials, don't know what the organization name or their 501(c) is. So it's hard to comment on anything from a financial or economic model perspective.

daylight
01-25-2013, 01:08 AM
yes I agree they should move to a smaller venue

I think their general attendance is somewhere between 8-14 thousand though, so thats a little big, I assume they want to save their place in the ACC for when their convention gets bigger, but, I think its a bad choice in its first years

im not positive about their finances, but I believe in their first year they came close to breaking even, they may have done a little worse in their second year, I heard from allot of people that attendees were just walking in and going to the dealer room, and not really going anywhere else

the summer festival stage by the artist alley was also a problem in the first year
I was really disappointed when I learned they had not fixed that
it was horrible, I couldn't hear my friends talking to me, I couldn't even hear myself think,

it should be loud enough that the people who want to stand by the stage can enjoy it, but not loud enough that the whole exhibit hall can hear it

also Im hoping they can get a Musical guest of honor this year

last year they ran around toting that you couldn't get into any concerts unless you bought a passport

allot of people bought passports on the pretense that they were going to be able to use them to see concerts, but then when the time came, there were no concerts
I thought that was pretty low

Poody
02-01-2013, 03:47 PM
Oh shoot, it's not free anymore? :sulk: hahaha. That's really the only reason I went last year. I had a good time on Friday, but Sunday was a snooze fest. (Didn't go on Saturday) I really don't care about the "guests"..... What this con need for me, was more attendees to make it more exciting. I can't imagine there being MORE attendees this year than last year....
(On that note, if the price really is $5-$10..... that's still pretty darn good for a badge.)

:juggler:

sicdedman
02-02-2013, 09:03 AM
General Attendance Sales
NEW FOR AMē 2013! Attendees who pay this minimal fee will have access to our exhibit hall, artist alley, summer festival, general workshops/panels, autograph sessions, dance, arcade, and other unannounced events. For more information, please visit our FAQ

Pre-Registration Prices

$5.00 for One Day
$10.00 for Three Days

At-Con Prices

$10.00 for One Day
$20.00 for Three Days

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Now those are NOT the prices for The (PASSPORT) just to be a (General Attendee)

chibirodan
02-07-2013, 05:10 PM
I went Friday and Saturday and had fun both days. I wish I would have gotten a hotel room instead of hauling @$$ back to Burbank/Glendale Area. Con staff was totally awesome and very funny. I mean I don't go to cons for musical guests, I go for certain events, and cosplay groups. The lack of programing on Sunday made me not interested.

There were some times I'll admit where nothing was going on. I think some people snapped some photos of me asleep in my costume. Though that seems to happen at every con i go to.:D

I like the ACC I just wished they did more with the space and used it better.

I agree however that the stage was atrocious and I really wish they'd do something about it.

El_Duque
02-08-2013, 09:08 PM
AM2 just announced their first GoH.
Please welcome AMē 2013's first Guest of Honor: Nylon Pink! This all-girl rock sensation has been called one of Los Angeles' "sexiest, glitziest bands" by LA Weekly.

sicdedman
02-09-2013, 11:51 AM
I hope there is a J-rock band or J-pop Singer this year. I love attending Conventions for Bands!

I have already seen Nylon Pink a couple times in LA.
They are Good! Don't get me wrong I like watching them perform!

Also Cool that it is Only February and they have announced 1 guest already when Con time is not until August! kudos! :)

daylight
02-09-2013, 03:23 PM
am I a bad person for being disappointed with their first GOH announcement?
not that I think Nylon Pink is a bad band, but I really want a japanese musical GOH to attend AM2 this year and im afraid that AM2 wont get one, Nylon Pink dosnt do anything to help ease my fears

I know they announced it early but I think thats only because AX an a few other cons started announcing guests early, so they had to compete

El_Duque
02-10-2013, 11:40 AM
am I a bad person for being disappointed with their first GOH announcement?
not that I think Nylon Pink is a bad band, but I really want a japanese musical GOH to attend AM2 this year and im afraid that AM2 wont get one, Nylon Pink dosnt do anything to help ease my fears

I know they announced it early but I think thats only because AX an a few other cons started announcing guests early, so they had to compete

Also Japan Expo USA up in the Bay Area isn't making things easier for AM2. Whatever GoHs they get will more than likely blow away AM2 out of the water.

daylight
02-11-2013, 12:01 AM
^ for sure, If I had enough money to make the trip up to norcal I would have my tickets to Japan Expo already, hahahha

Kazuto Kirigaya
02-13-2013, 12:18 AM
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daylight
02-13-2013, 04:28 AM
^it's only $5 a day
$10 for the whole weekend
it shouldn't be a big deal, I wouldn't go comparing it to AX prices

MeiChama
02-13-2013, 05:48 AM
Wow, they announced a guest and I didn't even catch it? Guess that's how much I'm not paying attention to AM2 as of late. I went last year but their guest list was pretty lacking. I want to go this year, but I don't even know if they'll have any good guests. :/

Codename Otacon
02-13-2013, 02:54 PM
It's seriously not free anymore? Man, AX is expensive enough. Even $20 is hard to get these days :/ Now I'm really bummed.

You could pre-register.


Pre-Registration Prices

$5.00 for One Day
$10.00 for Three Days

Or wait and paid at the con.

At-Con Prices

$10.00 for One Day
$20.00 for Three Days

EmoxJerk
02-21-2013, 12:14 PM
10 dollars for three days is a pretty damn good price imo. I mainly go to cons for the cosplay, cosplay panels, and meeting people haha. So I'll probably go regardless of what kind of guests attend.

sicdedman
05-07-2013, 11:49 AM
It is a little closer to Am2 now since the 1st Guest announcement back in February. I do hope Am2 announces at least 1 Guest this month just to keep interest in the people. It is still 4 months out until Am2 but would be nice to see some sort of announcement for something. Promotion or anything.

Skipping Am2 this year is a very good Option for me and use the money to attend Otakon Vegas in very early January.

chibirodan
05-09-2013, 10:15 PM
it could be that they are waiting to get closer to the event to try and run a shock and awe type campaign. Also more than likely they don't want their announcements competing for people's attention during the prelude to fanime and ax

choxie-chan
05-13-2013, 02:25 PM
it could be that they are waiting to get closer to the event to try and run a shock and awe type campaign. Also more than likely they don't want their announcements competing for people's attention during the prelude to fanime and ax

I agree with this. I mean, the prices are pretty darn cheap xD
I'm thinking of going since the Anaheim convention center is SOOOOO much better than the lA convention (that's just my opinion) also, they could bring great guests over there xD but i would love to go xD

Access
05-13-2013, 04:40 PM
Personally I don't expect this year to be any different than last year...

typu
05-19-2013, 11:35 PM
Guys don't get too excited for the con. It might not happen. The first year AM2 launched as AM2 (there isn't much information on the net about Club2theMax) it was in the red and someone was able to step in and clear the debt. This year I don't think there's much enthusiasm staff-side. Even if the fans are pumped for the con, it just can't happen if there's really no response from Chase. You guys should just do a really large meet up in Downtown Disney or something. I honestly think Chase is giving us the jerk around.

Hcoregamer00
05-21-2013, 03:08 AM
Guys don't get too excited for the con. It might not happen. The first year AM2 launched as AM2 (there isn't much information on the net about Club2theMax) it was in the red and someone was able to step in and clear the debt. This year I don't think there's much enthusiasm staff-side. Even if the fans are pumped for the con, it just can't happen if there's really no response from Chase. You guys should just do a really large meet up in Downtown Disney or something. I honestly think Chase is giving us the jerk around.

I am an outside observer here, but that is an awfully specific charge on the state of AM2.

typu
05-22-2013, 03:27 AM
I'd just like to clarify that I am not and have not apart of the official staff. I have however been a moderator of the forums for a short while, and I have kept tabs on almost all the juicy bits of information on the internet about AM2. It's a hobby.

typu
05-22-2013, 03:29 AM
edit: *have not been a part of

That error might have stirred up a lot of confusion.

daylight
06-04-2013, 01:44 AM
yeah, someone posted on their facebook page today that they called the ACC and the lady told her it was canceled
and with no guest announcements in the last 3 months, and no responce from anyone in the staff on the state of the con, its not looking good

choxie-chan
06-04-2013, 03:01 AM
^it's only $5 a day
$10 for the whole weekend
it shouldn't be a big deal, I wouldn't go comparing it to AX prices

yeah, someone posted on their facebook page today that they called the ACC and the lady told her it was canceled
and with no guest announcements in the last 3 months, and no responce from anyone in the staff on the state of the con, its not looking good

Ohhhhhhhh no, oh dear oh dear oh dear D:
Gladly I didn't buy my badge yet, but les see what happens.
Ill be praying for the best for this con, hopefully if it happens then ill possibly go anyway.

Access
06-04-2013, 02:24 PM
It honestly wouldn't surprise me at this point, not just money but lack of (remaining) staff is a problem. It is still on the Anaheim convention center website but check back in a week or two to see if it disappears from there, that will be the final confirmation.

Even most of the local people I know were planning on going to Japan Expo instead of this.

Access
06-06-2013, 07:44 PM
yeah, someone posted on their facebook page today that they called the ACC and the lady told her it was canceled
and with no guest announcements in the last 3 months, and no responce from anyone in the staff on the state of the con, its not looking good
I can verify because as of today, it has been removed from the Anaheim Convention Center website schedule.

If anyone wants to see for themselves, go here:
http://www.anaheimconventioncenter.com/eventCalendar.aspx
And then click on the months until you get to August.

Two days ago, it was there, now it is not. I know the website is still there, but 99.9% chance, this is it for AM2.

choxie-chan
06-06-2013, 08:59 PM
I can verify because as of today, it has been removed from the Anaheim Convention Center website schedule.

If anyone wants to see for themselves, go here:
http://www.anaheimconventioncenter.com/eventCalendar.aspx
And then click on the months until you get to August.

Two days ago, it was there, now it is not. I know the website is still there, but 99.9% chance, this is it for AM2.

Agreed, ouch now that sucks, well I guess all have to see if I can make it to PMX or comic on, hopefully ALA too. D:

Thanks so much for the info!

Access
06-06-2013, 09:57 PM
I can't speak for comic-con but if you do PMX or ALA be sure to pre-reg, both those cons might hit their cap.

choxie-chan
06-07-2013, 02:13 PM
I can't speak for comic-con but if you do PMX or ALA be sure to pre-reg, both those cons might hit their cap.

Ah I see, gotcha, thanks for letting me know~! :D

El_Duque
06-07-2013, 08:49 PM
RIP AM2, We hardly knew ye.

AnimeGamer
06-07-2013, 10:04 PM
Well, you alternative options now that this con is dead is K-CON, which is a K-Pop Convention in Anahiem happening the same weekend or Japan Expo USA - which is also on the same weekend.

I wasn't planning on going to AMē this year because lol work - but I'm not surprised this con is gone.

TBH - there are already way too many SoCal cons as it is with ALA, WonderCon, Conji, AX, SDCC, JX USA, Comikaze, and PMX. That is not even including cons like BlizzCon, K-CON, E3, etc.

EDIT - Oh, and can someone notify the Cosplay.com Staff about this? Most likely they should be coming around soon to lock & archive this forum. Or remove/delete it. Whatever they do for cons that don't exist anymore.

Xaila
06-07-2013, 11:00 PM
Agreed, ouch now that sucks, well I guess all have to see if I can make it to PMX or comic on, hopefully ALA too. D:

Thanks so much for the info!

If you want to attempt to attend SDCC, you need to get your member ID (this is the only way you'll be able to buy passes) PRONTO because they have one final round of refund passes they intend to sell before the con, as SDCC no longer does on-site reg. Once the member ID button at the top right goes away, the badge sale will occur shortly afterwards and then member ID will open up again at a later date...

For SDCC 2014.

typu
06-08-2013, 12:54 AM
This was an email from the former artist alley manager I found on the convention forum.

"Hello Artists,

It's your former Artist Alley Manager for 2012, as I have left staffing AM2 last January due to schooling reasons, so I'm emailing you from one of my personal accounts. I found a replacement and assumed all was well. However it has been brought to my attention that there is a rumor that AM2 has been cancelled. Attendees have mentioned calling the convention center to ask about it and have been told that it has been cancelled, and recently removed from the ACC site as well. I have also just confirmed with a staffer friend that it has been canceled as well, as they are surprised it has yet to be mentioned anywhere by the CEO. While I am no longer obligated to be involved, I felt this is the best method to reach all the current artists, hoping the former artists can pass this news around ASAP as I don't have access to the current artist alley list. I've also posted this in the AA Network International on FB as well, trying to broaden the net. I apologize to those who had to find out this way. I believe Japan Expo USA has an AA the same day so perhaps your plans can be adjusted. Again, I sincerely apologize to what has happened, I never thought it would turn out this way. I recommend doing a paypal dispute as soon as you can."

People are STILL having trouble with refunds, and as far as I can tell, Chase has been silent on the matter.

Xaila
06-10-2013, 12:57 AM
Watching this unfold has really REALLY made me give the con Chair the sideeye. He is like hoping everyone is gonna forget this and pretend AM2 is on still? The fact someone who QUIT staff had to come in and seal the nail on the coffin really cheeses me off.

Glad I never supported this con... hope this dude never weasels his way into cons or con staffing again.

Side note: I checked out AA Network International, Roxie's called the company who handles the badge purchasing for AM2, they had no idea this was the case and they're on it to get to the bottom of this and attendees quite likely will be refunded their badges.

Cheese and crackers this year has been weird for Cons!

Diedrupo
06-10-2013, 01:34 AM
Glad this terrible con is canceled. Why did cosplay.com even make a subforum for them? This is one of the smallest cons in the country and now its canceled for good.

Access
06-10-2013, 09:26 AM
Diedrupo I don't think anyone is ever glad that a con was cancelled, I brought this up yesterday and the people who didn't already know were disappointed; fortunately none of us had paid yet.

I mean we kinda knew it was coming (no staff and no money) and some of us were going to Japan Expo instead of this one but hopefully the money that people put into it (artists alley, dealers, badges, etc.) can be recovered. The only consolation here is that it's good that we figured these things out sooner rather than later.

loongy22
06-14-2013, 06:10 PM
It's really bad they haven't announced it on the website though. People might book flights and all....

Access
06-14-2013, 07:02 PM
loongy22 I wouldn't assume it's intentional, there might just be no one left to update the site so it just stays like it is, at least through the end of its term with the hosting company after which it will simply disappear.

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=am2con.org
If you look at the WHOIS info the site it likely already a zombie but doesn't expire till mid-November of this year, after that it will likely just disappear.


Domain Name:AM2CON.ORG
Created On:16-Nov-2010 03:18:47 UTC
Last Updated On:28-Nov-2012 00:13:48 UTC
Expiration Date:16-Nov-2013 03:18:47 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Moniker Online Services LLC (R145-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED

El_Duque
06-15-2013, 01:56 AM
I believe they are now refunding people who pre-reg. I read it on someone's Facebook that they got their $10 back.

typu
06-20-2013, 02:40 AM
I'm pretty sure that you just have to pay the annual dns fee to have the website say updated. Since I didn't buy a passport and I sort saw this coming, I've found this experience pretty interesting. I am a bit disappointed, but you can't honestly say that AM2 really went up from the first year. Sure there were a lot more attendees and people had a lot of fun mingling, but the actual con itself sucked, to put it bluntly.

MeiChama
06-21-2013, 07:44 PM
I attended last year for the first time and although it was nice going to a small con, there really wasn't much to do so half the time I got really bored. It was nice seeing all the cosplayers though.