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aeva
11-24-2002, 08:52 PM
Heya. ^^ I was wondering if anyone has made dragon wings before... I'm going to be making a Mink costume [Dragon Half], and I was just gathering ideas from how other people have done it.

How have you guys made your wings? I figured out how I'm going to do the support and whatnot, but what kind of materials do you reccomend? How should one go about it?

sailor-moon
11-24-2002, 08:56 PM
velvet!!! it makes the wings and tail look so cool! and satin!

Spooky Brew
11-24-2002, 08:57 PM
Crushed velevet would look cool to, to make it look a little bit like scales, but that may be to heavy! ^^;

aeva
11-24-2002, 09:00 PM
Crushed velvet... that might be pretty. ^^

Rosiel
11-25-2002, 10:02 AM
I'm doing mine in patent leather, I think it would look more real as dragon wings tend to look rubbery.

Although I might just go nuts and make them in shiny vinyl, just because the thought makes me happy. =)

Chosuke
11-25-2002, 11:48 AM
And just think.. if Rosiel made vinyl wings and wore them with her atziluth uniform she would be wearing more vinyl then everyone put together,ever has.

xD

Rosiel
11-25-2002, 12:07 PM
> if Rosiel made vinyl wings and wore them with her atziluth uniform she would be wearing more vinyl then everyone put together,ever has.

LMAO.

Actually, since the oufit the wings go with is floor-sweeping vinyl... I will. ^__________^

Chosuke
11-25-2002, 12:21 PM
-Sweat- ^_^;;... doesn't matter though.. anything you make looks gorgeous! I'm waiting for the piccies already XD

Space Invader
11-25-2002, 03:16 PM
You could just go buy a pair of the pleather ones they sell at costume stores and paint them the right colors.

If you're like me though, you'll want to make them yourself :).I would suggest making the harness out of clear vinyl, the frame out of heavy coathanger wire (a few strands masking/duct taped together for strength), and then cover those with your vinyl/pleather. Cut out the webbing sections, and then attach those between the frame pieces (hot glue works VERY well for vinyl, especially at really high temeratures).

That SHOULD work, but I haven't tried it, so I'm really not sure. I'll have to make huge bat wings for my planned Chaos costume though, so I'll be a kindred spirit in the pains of wing making.

Nyanko-chan
11-25-2002, 09:40 PM
Mew, I agree with all the people who say pleather or vinyl. I made a pair out of rainslicker vinyl and pleather and they looked nice and shiney and scaley~ Theres even some vinyl that has scales pre-embossed on it>^_^<

warui_tanuki
11-30-2002, 03:55 AM
Not to sound like a sentient advertisement, since I already mentioned it in the only other non-introductory post I've made, but Sculpt-or-Coat (http://www.sculpturalarts.com/) would be great for creating a realistic, scaly texture. It's wonderful stuff... It would probably take a little bit more sculptury skill instead of just sewingy skill, but it would look really impressive.

Rethul
12-02-2002, 04:48 PM
I advise on pleather wings, but make sure that the "bones" in the wings are

a) Strong
b) Well defined: One of the things you see is the bones beneath the skin
c) Comfortable....

nuff said...

Carmila
12-03-2002, 11:09 PM
My best friend is the shiznit at making wings! She has turned herself into a dragon twice and both times they were wonderful. However, she cut out individual scales out of vinyl and sewed them onto a form that she made out of craft foam (you know the light stuff) and they looked so good!

Oh, if you do Mink I Have to see pictures! Mink is sooo darn cute!

Trooper_Trent
02-24-2003, 04:11 PM
check out my thread
http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8096

TsukiGuujin
02-26-2003, 02:07 PM
I'm using carboard, wire, and vinyl, with milliput for the claw-like parts for my Shinigami wings. They're not *quite* dragon wings, but they're close.

If you need tips on how to make them, I might be able to help you.

~~Tsuki Guujin~~

Cocoa
02-26-2003, 02:59 PM
Jut a note on the cardboard, remember that it doesn't bend ^^ I had a pair of dragon wings for my Halloween costume that had a cardboard inside the fabric for support (I'm redoing them with a wire frame inside), and because I couldn't pull them, they kept hitting stuff, including my friends, and ended up bent. Wire = GOOD.
-Cocoa

TsukiGuujin
02-26-2003, 03:26 PM
Cardboard only seems to be good with wire reinforcement. X_X I'm not using cardboard for the ACTUAL wings, just the bottoms of them...I wish this made more sense. XD

So, yeah. Entire wings out of cardboard probably doesn't work THAT well. At least, not these wings. X_X

~~Tsuki~~

Eleryth
03-10-2003, 11:30 PM
Check out my friend Oselle's cosplay page...she was a "toned down" version of Mink (a very very family oriented convention - no bikinis allowed), but has the wings and tail and horns. The wings are great, and were actually my first attempt at making anything since I was in junior high (at that point, um, 6-8 years earlier). She still has them and loves them! It was our first cosplay attempt, too...

her page:
http://www.geocities.com/oselle_the_platypus/Cosplay.html

If you have any questions on how I made them, just ask! (if you like them, that is)

And I agree - go for the wire. Definitely.

~e

Rosiel
03-11-2003, 09:36 AM
I notice I never posted a follow-up...

So I ended up making mine out of black vinyl with a light silver-blue scale pattern with sequins to add to the scaled look. It was a lot of work, but my group won Best Overall Craftsmanship so it was worth it after all. ^__^

I need a better picture but this gives you an idea. (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=18500&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500) I really have to take close-up pictures of those things.

As for tips:

1) Get an anatomy book and make the wire frame of your wings just like a bat squeleton. In bats wings, you see the bone placement clearly, and if the "bones" are in the wrong place, they will look funny.

2) If you use scaled vinyl, make sure that the scales are going in the right direction.

3) Make sure to plan where the claws go, and have wire to support the clay part.

5) If you're going to wear your harness on the outside, make sure that the underside of it is in a fabric that will no adhere to your costume (vinyl on vinyl = catastrophy).

LLC
03-12-2003, 12:34 PM
Leather works well. I have a friend that runs her own company and she did the full-size wings for the comic book character Purgatori. These wings have been used while she was even doing a masquerade that was physically demanding (it was a sword battle) and they keep right on going.

You might want to check them out on www.sandiegoleathercostumes.com

I think she can just about custom make them to any size and almost any colour.

aimee
03-12-2003, 07:36 PM
http://www.furnation.com/loopy
http://www.avians.net/legend/Fursuit.html

a few links to tutorials on how some people have done it...

but I agree, pleather or vinyl would be really pretty.

I loooove bat/dragon wings. if anyone else has done some, please post pics! :)!

LLC
03-13-2003, 02:18 PM
http://www.sandiegoleathercostumes.com/Photos/Modeling/P3010603.jpg