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DemonSquirrel
05-31-2004, 12:47 AM
so, how do you go about that? just to warn you i'm not experienced with foundation. the other day i bought some L'OREAL "True Match" liquid foundation [i found a color that matches my skin well] but i'm coming across the problem of it looking a little obvious. it looks fine from a distance, good for photos and such, but i don't want to have this "obvious make-up" [i need a thesaurus XD] look, when talking to people in public. any tips to reduce this problem, or is it something i shouldn't be too concerned with?

archangeli
05-31-2004, 01:25 AM
if you can see the foundation, it's not a good color match. perhaps the finish is not right for your skin type.

one trick to try, apply it with a damp cosmetic sponge (the little triangle wedges) to make the application sheerer and smoother.

DemonSquirrel
05-31-2004, 01:29 AM
::nods:: i'll try that

mikazuki
05-31-2004, 04:35 PM
You could also mix in a little moisturizer with the makeup before you apply it to your face. It creates a little more sheer foundation so you won't get the coverage if you're looking to hide imperfections like zits.

Mei
06-01-2004, 11:13 PM
Or you could just opt for concealer. It works, depending on how well you apply it, and how much you need. Even those with evident blemishes (me for example) can get away with simply concealer.

archangeli
06-02-2004, 12:03 AM
Or you could just opt for concealer. It works, depending on how well you apply it, and how much you need. Even those with evident blemishes (me for example) can get away with simply concealer.

yep - that's my daily regime.
some concealer and powder and my face base is done. then the fun of eyeshadow and lips comes :)

on days when i want a more "polished" look i'll use a good tinted moisturizer underneath the concealer too.

JunJun
06-02-2004, 12:58 AM
If i'm in cosplay, i don't really care how obvious it is that i'm wearing makeup. I'm wearing concealer, heavy foundation, powder, everything. My concern is looking striking to that passer-by, the people with cameras. Also, looking good on film, or computer.

I've never heard of tinted moisturizer, that's great! Does Cover Girl make one? (i try to stay with one brand for my base facial products)

For every day... I rarely wear makeup at all. If i do choose to get real dressed up, powder is as much of a "foundation" as I apply.

Mei
06-02-2004, 01:10 AM
Well, if you do the concealer-foundation-blush-powder-eye makeup thing you will not be looking your best. This, unless you have a great talent for mixing tints and lighting, it's difficult to look fantastic with cakey makeup. Another thing to consider is how you will look two hours into it...you'll prolly be hot from both the outside heat and from walking around, and typically you wanna let up on makeup in the hot summer months. Then there's the maintenance at the end of the day, washing, cleansing, toning, etc. etc. I strongly suggest you don't do a lot of heavy stuff, especially if you don't wear makeup on a regular, day-to-day basis (even if it is for cons!).

If you're real adamant on using makeup though, use tinted moisturizer, and then lay off the rest of the makeup basics until you get to blush. You really do wanna let your skin breathe.

Reichiru_Desu
06-02-2004, 10:50 AM
The best foundation I've come across is Max Factor. It matched skin tone great, and it applies evenly. It's avalible in your drug store and isn't vey expensive.
Plus, Max Factor designed makeup for film and TV, and I find that his makeup appears great on camera. Plus, it dosen't really rub off or go anywhere. And to get good coverage you only need to apply a little. (Good when your sweating in that cosplay costume...lol)

Thats been my experience I guess. As for making alright foundation better you can follow the above techniques....

Just thought I would put in my 2 cents about foundation....thanks!

Mei
06-02-2004, 11:27 AM
Oh! There's also this Almay foundation that is nearly weightless. It's got sheer but good coverage...can't think of the name, but I will certainly post it when I have insight! ^_^

FEATHERWEIGHT...I think that's what it's called...I'll try again...

DemonSquirrel
06-02-2004, 04:31 PM
The best foundation I've come across is Max Factor.

hehe my teacher just mentioned that brand today in history class. turns out it was the very first company in cosmetics. random, yes, and for that i apologize.

DemonSquirrel
06-02-2004, 04:41 PM
Well, if you do the concealer-foundation-blush-powder-eye makeup thing you will not be looking your best. This, unless you have a great talent for mixing tints and lighting, it's difficult to look fantastic with cakey makeup. Another thing to consider is how you will look two hours into it...you'll prolly be hot from both the outside heat and from walking around, and typically you wanna let up on makeup in the hot summer months. Then there's the maintenance at the end of the day, washing, cleansing, toning, etc. etc. I strongly suggest you don't do a lot of heavy stuff, especially if you don't wear makeup on a regular, day-to-day basis (even if it is for cons!).

If you're real adamant on using makeup though, use tinted moisturizer, and then lay off the rest of the makeup basics until you get to blush. You really do wanna let your skin breathe.

yea, i pondered the warm weather factor. i think on one of the warmer days coming up i'm going to test drive the foundation, and see how well it holds up. luckily i won't be needing much make-up for the cosplay i'm planning to do, i don't think Naruto wears much make up ^^ depending on how my skin is that day, i wanted to make sure i had some cover up for just in case. besides that i'm gonna need a little eyeliner, so the make-up will be reasonably at a minimum. tinted moisturizers... can you recommend any? i use C&C shine control moisturizer, but i don't think thats the same thing, is it?

archangeli
06-02-2004, 04:58 PM
I've never heard of tinted moisturizer, that's great! Does Cover Girl make one? (i try to stay with one brand for my base facial products)


Other than Revlon's ColorStay lines I don't use drugstore makeup. I know it sounds like an incredibly snotting thing to say but I've never found any drugstore concealer/foundation/eyeshadows/lipgloss that make me happy.

The tinted moisturizer I use is by Bobbi Brown and it has an SPF 25 too :)

China-Lilly
06-02-2004, 07:50 PM
In my experience, more makeup actually photographs better than less.

There is a difference between applying makeup for 'wear' and applying makeup for photography. Photography requires more makeup than what you'd wear everyday - you may look a bit overdone in person, but that won't be the case in the photos.

So, if you want to look better in person, you risk looking not as good in photos.

Of course, lighting must also be taken into consideration - if you're outside in natural light, then it's best to be more light-handed. Whereas is flash photography is involved you'd need more.

I also think it's best to avoid SPF in foundations if you mean to be photographed. The titanium dioxide in it can cause more light to reflect from the flash , and you'll end up with a white face in the picture.

sunako
06-02-2004, 07:57 PM
Er, I don't think this has been said yet, but remember there is always powder pressed foundation instead of liquid. Sometimes, even with moisturizer, liquid can look a bit iffy with some skin.

archangeli
06-02-2004, 10:18 PM
i've never had luck with powder foundations. firstly i find they go on cakey and chalky looking. and since i have combination skin and tend to develop shine in my T-zone, the powdered foundation becomes a nasty mess.

i totally agree with China-Lilly that makeup for everyday and makeup for photography and stage are totally different things. i suggest that you at least try out your cosplay makeup routine and take a few test photos to see how you look in them. Even though your mirror loves you, the camera may not :p

animeBecky21
06-22-2004, 01:45 AM
How about making it look natural when you're trying to hide that you've shaved off a beard's worth of facial hair? Even when it's smooth as a baby's butt some areas - upper lip in particular - carry a shadow or hint of the hair that grows there. Hiding that varys from person to person... be interesting to get a critique of my makeup technique, except that usually the flash in the camera is reflecting whatever oils have come through in various spots and it looks like ... well, looks bad. I don't have a good character shot to look at though, just conventional stuff.

nekhochan
06-24-2004, 12:55 AM
If you want flawless in person AND in pics you can go for a mineral makeup. Bare Essentials and Youngblood are my favorites. Youngblood is here: http://www.makeupartistschoice.com and bare essentials is at ULTA stores, online, and on QVC and they have counters/stores in some malls and dept. stores.

mikazuki
06-24-2004, 01:22 PM
BTW - Max Factor's grandsons (the Factors no longer own the Max Factor company) are also in the beauty industry and created their own company called Smashbox. Smashbox has some amazing makeup that rivals their grandpa's company.

www.smashbox.com or www.qvc.com

laydee.c
07-28-2004, 06:35 PM
Oh! There's also this Almay foundation that is nearly weightless. It's got sheer but good coverage...can't think of the name, but I will certainly post it when I have insight! ^_^

FEATHERWEIGHT...I think that's what it's called...I'll try again...

ALMAY NEARLY NAKED MAKE-UP!!! thats wut i use :thumbsup: its sheer and "invisible" http://www.almay.com/prodlevel.asp?catid=2&prodid=24048

archangeli
07-28-2004, 10:58 PM
BTW - Max Factor's grandsons (the Factors no longer own the Max Factor company) are also in the beauty industry and created their own company called Smashbox. Smashbox has some amazing makeup that rivals their grandpa's company.

www.smashbox.com or www.qvc.com

I've tried a couple of products from Smashbox's line and was totally underwhelmed.... there prices are ridiculous for mediocre products.

(although i DO love their foundation primer -hehe.. but it's kinda a luxe item for me)

I just got a sample of MAC's new Hyper Real SPF 15 foundation and i'm adoring it!! :) :heart: :heart: :heart:

China-Lilly
07-29-2004, 12:53 AM
I think Ben Nye makes a product that neutralizes shadow from beard growth. I have forgotten the name though.

Mineral makeup actually contains a high amount of titanium dioxide which means they also generally have high SPFs - to me, that would make them unsuitable for photography. It's hard to find anything totally without SPF though, unless it's a pro brand, so I sometimes go with something with SPF under 15 and then powder a bit extra.

I have used Max Factor Panstick and Pancake for photography and they do look good - but you have to be careful as they can easily look heavy. I don't think they make pancake anymore though. I personally prefer MAC Face & Body. A colleague of mine swears by Nars foundations.

If a flash is involved, you need to be very matte. Any sheen on your skin will simply look like oily shine!

aimee
07-31-2004, 05:57 PM
what do you guys think about brands like say MAC or Fresh, etc?

Lily-chan
11-10-2004, 11:32 PM
Well, my trick is to do spot liquid concealer on blemishes after applying my face lotion (I'm a proactive girl, you may need to adjust this to fit you) But you have to work fast, because before the lotion is completely dry, you need to brush on loose powder. I use a shade lighter cause I like the look, but whatever floats your boat. It has to be loose powder to work though, I suggest Ben Nye, I like theirs. Also, if you start crazy sweating or something, you can carry powder with you to touch up quivkly.

SeraMuun
11-11-2004, 03:00 AM
i REALKLY like covergirl CG smoothers..they help give you an even, flawless finish..

and i have to insist on something..If you don't wear makeup on a daily basis then you propably do not know how to apply makeup correctly.. There are tricks and secrets to a flawless finish .. blending is VITAL. i see alot of people slap on there makeup and go..it just doesnt work that way.

Makeup is to highlight your good features and downplay your bad (for example..I hve an uneven skintone in pictures )

I first use a light mostirizer, then use a light conceler on the darker spots and blend it very carefully with a base foundation (cg smoothers) . I use a little blushe so I don't look terrably pale, and a clear setting powder (you can purchase this at costume or theater shops). I don't like tinted power because i think it ruins the color blending .. .. Always try to play up your eyes.. not to much..but eyes are an important feature.. ^_^


<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/wolfs-rain/private/529headshot.jpg">
its hard to believe i was having an incredably BAD skin day when this was taken.. but with a little extra time and practice you can master getting it perfect :)

Tia
11-11-2004, 03:28 AM
Yeah, it is actually not impossible to get a natural-ish look with the heavy makeup stuff. It just takes longer. If I'm rushing, I can do it in 20-30 minutes (that's minimal time on colors), but it's usually more like an hour.

Like Toboe said, I think the single most important thing is blending. It's also good to pick one feature and play it up like eyes, cheeks, or lips. Sometimes I like to alternate. Some people like to go the other direction, though, making everything stand out. I don't think this is really good for anybody except Jrockers, because you're supposed to make everything stand out for that. It can really be effective to just play up one feature a ton if you're looking for good results.

I was flipping channels about a year ago and I saw this show (granted it's not very good except for the costumes/makeup) and I was like "Oh my God." All the makeup artist really did differently than most makeup is work on the eyes. But the results were really incredible. http://www.tribeworld.com/

Normally when I wear makeup in everyday life and about half of the time for cosplay, I go with my natural colors (brown/coral/olive). You should find out what the colors that work well with your skin/hair/eye type and go with that. Usually it's either warm or cool colors. A good book for makeup color theory is Revlon's "The Art of Beauty." It says a lot about how to achieve a natural look, also.

Bramblerose
11-11-2004, 12:44 PM
Hasn't anyone tried Dream Matte Mousse? I use it and it's really soft powder. It comes in a lot of skin tones, like Porcelain Ivory for pale-toned people. I use their Nude skin tone.

liddo-chan
11-11-2004, 11:43 PM
I don't like that really "foundation-ed" look either, so I don't wear too much makeup, except for auditions and cosplaying. My favorite line-up for more natural looking coverage...

1) Start with a clean face! (I use Clinique's 3-step skin care system.)
2) Apply a super-thin layer of Perfect Primer by English Ideas, which is a really nice base for foundation. They say it "helps keep foundation perfect for 8-12 hours," and I haven't timed myself, but it does stay looking better for longer than usual ;)
3) Dab on MAC concealer if necessary (the lighter kind, comes in a little tube).
4) Using a makeup sponge--this is really important, the sponge makes it go on much more smoothly and you can get it down to a thin, even layer--apply Clinique's Almost Makeup (in between a moisturizer and foundation, with SPF 15) or Stila's Iluminating Liquid Foundation for a little more coverage.
5) Finish off with Gentle Light Pressed Powder by Clinique.

I realize these brands are more expensive than Cover Girl, etc. But Clinique often has "Bonus Time" at certain department stores, and you can get some great free makeup (love the mascara and lipsticks) with a small purchase. And Sephora is just fun...

leelee
11-13-2004, 05:23 PM
so, how do you go about that? just to warn you i'm not experienced with foundation. the other day i bought some L'OREAL "True Match" liquid foundation [i found a color that matches my skin well] but i'm coming across the problem of it looking a little obvious. it looks fine from a distance, good for photos and such, but i don't want to have this "obvious make-up" [i need a thesaurus XD] look, when talking to people in public. any tips to reduce this problem, or is it something i shouldn't be too concerned with?


I use Sacha foundation it is the best it is very light with good coverage, I always had a problem finding the right foundation it all made me look fake.

www.sachausa.com/lisajohnson

Kiniro Hoshi
04-26-2005, 01:57 PM
The latest thing I've seen for weightless coverage is aerosole foundation (spelling?). That's not the brand, just stating that it comes in a spray can. I've seen professional make-up artists use it by spraying it on a make-up wedge but I can't seem to find aerosole foundation so I don't know how that will work out for you, but you can try!

Hanyaan
04-26-2005, 03:37 PM
I swear by mineral makeup. My favorite is Glo Minerals gloPressed Base. This stuff is also amazing because it's the best match for my skin I've ever found, since I have a bitch of a time finding pale enough foundation that has almost no yellow.

angellover02171
04-29-2005, 12:59 PM
you might not even need foundation if you have good skin. you can just use concelor on the dark spots and finsh with a powder. i have a lot of scars so i use derma blend. i recently tried mixing it with lotion and then going over it with the powder i looked really natural. personally i think that derma blend is the best. i have tried max factor and lorial and some other drug store stuff as well as some nice department store stuff. it didn't work for my corse skin. to find the right color go to a department store and ask them to put two shades on your face and then go outside withat mirror and see which oneis better. keep in mind that neither of those colors might be go for you. most make-up companies will cater to a certain undertone. be paintian and make sure you dom't buy anything you don't want. you could get a copy of color me beatiful. i have one but it is old and the colors are dated but there are some classic beaty wisdom in the book. ever yon should have 2 or there foundations for when the seasons change.

newmyu
05-09-2005, 01:52 PM
I personally use a concealer stick for any blemishes (then blend it) then apply a liquid foundation, and set that with translucent powder. After that, I apply neutral eyeshadow (light tan and brown) and a natural colored lipstick usually.

I like to keep my makeup as minimal and natural looking as possible. Honestly, a lot of people, if seeing me for the first time, don't realize I have makeup on, but it makes a HUGE difference in pictures.

Blending is a big deal, and if you skimp on that, you're going to have a face that is more obviously made up than if you took the time to really make sure everything was blended. I tend to do my makeup in the bathroom, then take a mirror out into the living room with natural lighting to see if I missed blending anywhere.

KawaiiEdea
05-19-2005, 11:15 AM
I swear by tinted moisturizer lol. Before I only used concealer and some powder (like a few people mentioned already), but it wasn't doing enough for me. If you have relatively good skin I'd suggest it. Tinted moisturizer is very sheer but its easy to blend in concealer over it. That's about as 'natural' I think you can go without actually going 'natural' lol. There's also iridescent makeup that will look more natural than say if you used a matte kind since it creates a dewy/shimmery look.

DemonSquirrel
05-19-2005, 07:11 PM
haha wow it's been almost a year since i started this thread and all of a sudden i see it's resurrected! i finally got some nice stick foundation from MAC. tottally worth the money.

Dearx
05-19-2005, 09:57 PM
I have a question, my friend was thinking of getting some foundation that is lighter than her skin, will it work to help lighten her skin? we were thinking of getting L'OREAL "True Match" in a much lighter color than her skin and I just wanted to ask if it will work? thanks

angellover02171
05-21-2005, 02:12 PM
why not use a concealer and a tinted lotion. use a highlighter to look more golden or a broner to look really sun kissed

sheshechan
06-05-2005, 03:59 PM
Use a moiterizure on your face before applying the foundation. the moisterizure usually gets rid of the dead skin and oil, and makes the foundation go on alot smoother.

ichigomewmew14
06-06-2005, 06:34 AM
I suggest Bare Minerals fro Bare Essentials. It is a wonderfun makeup/foundation

angellover02171
06-07-2005, 04:22 AM
if you use a lighter shad then yeah your skin will look lighter, till you wash it off. if she really wants to be ligher on her own she could use some lightening cream. i need to get it for the new scar on my ass(that was to mcuh info, so i guess i shouldn't tell ya how it happened). it really works and i have nver had a reaction.

Shenila
11-21-2010, 10:01 PM
I know this might be a little late, and I didn't really read through many replies but here are my tips.

Before foundation:

(OPTIONAL: If you haven't exfoliated your face in a while, try exfoliating it about half an hour before starting your routine. Also after exfoliating, try a pore minimizing face wash. You don't have to but you HAVE to start with a clean face. To minimize pores to create an easier-smoother base for your make up, take a full cube of ice and rub it around your face paying special attention to the ares where your pores are the most noticable and keep this up until the ice fully melts.)

Moisturize your skin. Use any kind you have but you should keep rubbing it into your skin until your face is almost dry. Then wait a couple minutes.

Next, if you have it, try using a face primer. No, normal eye-makeup primer won't do. There are plenty of in-expensive but effective face primers out there. You can pick some up at places like CVS and Walgreens. ( You can always check their sites to see if they have a sale on any, and they should have a feature which should tell you if any store near you carries this product.)
You don't need a lot of face primer. A dime-size amount should do.


Now for your foundation:

If you don't really want it to look to obvious, try using a mineral-based foundation or just try using a concealer on places where you need it. You could also go for a light-coverage or medium-coverage foundation. Also, if you have oily skin or even combonation skin, try going for a oil-free formula. If you have sensitive skin, try getting a foundation with an SPF of at least 15. Though here is how you can make do with the foundation you currently have.

Let out a small amount of foundation on the back of your hand and rub it around a little, gently so it makes a little puddle. Then using a stippling brush (A Stippling brush makes foundation-applying much easier, more even and more natural looking giving a medium layer rather then the heaviness to lack of thickness you can get from a sponge) dip it in the foundation on the back of your hand and pat lightly all over your face. There should be smudgy-like dots all over your face. Then use the stippling brush and just blend it out. Keep blending until the foundation is evenly distributed throughout your face.

Now, to help make the foundation stay longer, to make it look more natural, and to keep it from melting off and creasing, apply a loose powder finishing veil.

You can get these in your skin shade, as well as a translucent color if you prefer. I suggest using a mineral veil. Yes, mineral make-up can get pricey, but there are good ones out there for around 10 dollars. I currently have a 12 dollar one from Maybelline. Try to get the little jars instead of sticks as it will save you more money in the long run. You don't need a lot of Mineral Veil. Putting on a thick layer will make your face look cakey.

I recommend using a Kabuki brush or something similar if possible (NOT THE STIPPLING BRUSH FOR LOOSE POWDER). Dip your Kabuki Brush in the powder and tap the brush over the jar lightly to remove excess powder. (Try to not do this in a place with a face that is on or a room with an open window on a windy day) Lightly apply the loose powder onto your face in circular-motions. Try to keep the coat as thin as possible.

What this does is it makes your face Matte. It prevents liquid foundation from melting and keeps it on longer. (Double-win since the primer already keeps it on longer) It also keeps it from settling into pores or fine lines since it won't melt. It also adds extra protection to your skin from UV rays because its like an outer shield.

To keep it looking more natural. Try getting a very light powder or a highlighter/concealer and apply it on the crease between your bottom lip and chin, on the bridge of your nose, and along your cheekbones. This will give your skin a healthy, natural-looking glow. Also, if you want, try using a light MATTE blush in a peachy or very pale pink and apply it along the apples of your cheeks. (To locate the apples of your cheeks just smile really big, I'm serious)

Also, to make it stay EVEN LONGER I do believe there are hydrating sprays that you can use every few hours, just spray a little on your face and it keeps your make-up set and your skin hydrated? I've heard of this but haven't tried it yet.

Well anyway those are all my tips. :D
Hope you liked it! And I hope it helps! :D
:burger:

StrawberrySiren
11-21-2010, 10:27 PM
Please refrain from resurrecting a thread from five years ago.