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Virgil
03-08-2005, 01:05 AM
This is my first project. I need help with either the jacket, or the sword. I don't know how to mold fiber glass and stuff. Can anyone help?

DantexSlayer
03-16-2005, 06:24 PM
Hey, im sort of new also but i suggest doing DVC2's costume...its eaiser and also looks good..thats the one ill be doing.

DantexSlayer
03-16-2005, 06:25 PM
And Where Can I Get Those Guns!!!!!!!!!! Lmao I Want Them!!!!!

Faux
03-16-2005, 07:59 PM
Screw the jacket. Grab a towel and go shirtless, like in the intro. ;)

Props to anyone who is brave enough to do this.

animeroxmysox13
03-16-2005, 08:25 PM
wow. those guns are freakin' sweet!!!!!

L.&C.
03-17-2005, 07:42 PM
I'm going as dante from dmc3 also. I need pictures fo the sword. If you guys can find them please post them or send a link...PLEASE!

Aisha-chan
03-17-2005, 11:02 PM
I dunno. I don't think that that is a beginner's costume. I'd tone it down before doing somehting that impressive.

But if you want.

I have a friend who's done that, and DMC2.

NinjaPirate
03-21-2005, 10:59 PM
Im personally working on a DMC Dante version of the costume, with his black long sleeved shirt, black gloves, red vest, and his red overcoat and red pants, just basically because i dont think i could pull off the shirtless look :)

Im also going to create his sword Alastar and his two handguns, Ivory and Ebondy, ill let you know how it turns out.

Demon Angel
03-23-2005, 10:04 PM
faux does ur ps2 still work cuz ill buy it if it does ;)

DarkEpyon
03-27-2005, 01:12 PM
The guns would be the easy part. Just buy two of the same at a toy store, then paint one of them white (or black if the ones you bought were white).

San the Red Fox
06-03-2011, 04:57 PM
I have an idea on the jacket, cause i'm actually working on two Dante cosplays. One being a fem version (didn't get it 100% done) and the DMC3 version.http://ninjapino.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/devil_may_cry3_2.jpg (http://ninjapino.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/devil_may_cry3_2.jpg)
I say first look for patterns that would look the closest to the jacket itself. And if its not exact, then alter it! For the material, I would use pleather. A light red pleather, and the lining, make sure it would fit on comfort, and color and sheen.

San the Red Fox
06-03-2011, 04:58 PM
And Where Can I Get Those Guns!!!!!!!!!! Lmao I Want Them!!!!!
The guns on the other hand... You can find them on ebay!

Technowraith
06-03-2011, 05:28 PM
For sword pictures: google search Rebellion Devil May Cry and then click "images." You'll get tons of reference pictures.

For Ebony and Ivory: there's ebay, or making them yourself if you have some talent in woodworking. I've got designs drawn up for Ebony and Ivory. What sucks is that since I'm going to Anime Expo in 2012 as possibly Dante, I have to repaint Ebony some ridiculous white/black pattern to fit their weapons policy requirements. Ivory I have no clue what to do with since it's already white (light grey) and their weapons policy states that guns have to contain some amount of white, or other color.

As for the costume: if this is a first costume project, consider commissioning or buying off ebay. Unless you have the experience, Dante's coat isn't easy to make. However, with some experience you can indeed use a modified pattern from say a Tripp trenchcoat, or any other trenchcoat. You just have to have the know how to look at pieces of a garment in 3d and then translating that to a 2d pattern design. I'd suggest commissioning or ebay to save first-timer headaches though.

2DLogic
06-03-2011, 09:35 PM
What sucks is that since I'm going to Anime Expo in 2012 as possibly Dante, I have to repaint Ebony some ridiculous white/black pattern to fit their weapons policy requirements. Ivory I have no clue what to do with since it's already white (light grey) and their weapons policy states that guns have to contain some amount of white, or other color.

Eh?
"All prop weapons or futuristic replica must be submitted to “Access Control” for written approval. Access Control has the sole discretion to approve prop weapons or futuristic replicas at Anime Expo®. Access Control is located at the booth entitled “Peace Bonding.”

Prop Weapons: homemade or commercially rendered costume prop weapons that support the overall look of a costume or character.

Futuristic Replica: Weapons portrayed in a futuristic manner such as: phasers, ray guns, or light-sabers.

Removing or tampering with the device(s) used by Access Control to designate approval is a violation of the Weapons Policy and will result in immediate expulsion from Anime Expo.

Any approved prop weapon or futuristic devise may be revoked at any time at the discretion of the Access Control and management of Anime Expo®, for reasons including, but not limited to, the item being utilized or brandished in an inappropriate fashion or if complaints are received regarding its improper display."

Not sure who told you that weapons have to have white or some other color on them. Their policy says nothing about it.

What about those generic "safety orange" barrel plugs?

Also, 6 year old thread rises from the grave?:eek:

Technowraith
06-03-2011, 10:50 PM
I got my info from the AX weapons policy thread (http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=226769).

"GUNS:
1. Any an all projectile weapons CANNOT have been capable of shooting ANYthing and ANYtime, no matter what the current condition. These include, but certainly not limited to: AIRSOFTS, pellet guns, bb guns, rubberband guns, NERF guns, etc...
- The ONLY exception to this is for emptied waterguns.

FUTURISTIC GUNS:
1. If the silhouette looks like a futuristic gun, then it's all right.

REALISTIC GUNS:
All realistic looking guns MUST follow the following criteria:
1. Cannot be a real gun
2. Must be PAINTED approximately 50% of the following colors, either singlely or in some kind of pattern:
________a. white
________b. bright red
________c. bright orange
________d. bright yellow
________e. bright green
________f. bright blue
________g. bright pink
________h. bright purple
________i. or transparent
3. By "realistic," I include the following: modern guns, antique guns, all-wood guns/rifles, steam-punky guns (depending on the color and amount of steam-punkery added), etc...

Examples of realisitc guns: Yoko Ritona's gun from Gurren Lagann.

Note: for those of you thinking "But..." or "It looks horrible" or "It doesn't go with my outfit," this is California Law (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12551.php). There's also additional information thanks to BryantQ ( http://www.anime-expo.org/forums/ind...#entry54 2189 )
For those of you saying "But they sell all black [insert gun] in the dealer's hall," the ones in the dealer's hall is for private use in a private setting. As long as you're on the convention center's grounds, either keep it in the box it came in, put it in bag check, in your car, or hotel.
And lastly, for those of saying "But [insert convention] doesn't have that kind of policy," we are not [insert convention] nor is [insert convention] us. Additionally, I would ask you to actually read the weapons policy of other conventions. You will see that we are more allow some things [insert convention] doesn't allow and vis versa.
"

I've inquired about Ebony and Ivory. I was told that Ebony had to be repainted per the gun policy. They are considered "Realistic guns" due to their "silhouette." Ivory, however, if a straight white is used, is just fine. The weapons policy is kinda weird, as it seems to contradict itself in regard to No Live Steel but yet allowing "metal swords with sheaths that are peace bonded."

In any case, this is a subject that should taken elsewhere so we don't derail this thread. ;)

2DLogic
06-05-2011, 01:27 PM
That is very contradictory information... Even their site has a different policy statement.
http://www.anime-expo.org/guides/weapons-policy/
Strange, for such a large convention I would think that they would want their information to be as easily accessed and as concise as possible.

It is still fairly relevant to the topic, assuming the person interested in the cosplay/props would be going to AX. Plus the thread is 6 years old, I'm assuming that the original issue has been resolved by now. ;)

Technowraith
06-05-2011, 10:45 PM
I would agree that AX has two seemingly contradictory policies in force. Not sure what they're trying to convey really. But if I had a choice, I would choose the more strict policy to follow. Most of the new weapons policy adjustments happened in 2009, when they had that idiot CEO come in and practically destroy the organization for what it was. Since then, they've adapted and changed their policy to the one I linked above.

As for Dantes out there heading to AX, do keep in mind the gun policy, because sometimes they do confiscate and NOT return props that fail to meet the policy. I'd hate to see someone make an awesome Ebony and Ivory and then lose them due to the policy. ;)

In other news, even though I don't have Dante on the pipeline for cosplay this year, I've undertaken early design plans for Ebony and Ivory. Once I get Nero done, I'll probably work on Dante. At the least, the guns for Nero and Dante aren't hard to make. I already have wood blanks for Ebony and Ivory. Thing is I gotta make 2 sets, one for AX and one for standard conventions that don't require the ridiculous paint scheme. So I gotta get two more wood blanks.

2DLogic
06-06-2011, 07:44 PM
I would think following the more strict rule set is probably the safest choice, aside from getting written approval from one of the directors.

I read through their weapons policy thread and apparently the 'bright colors and "50% paint rule stems from California law:
"CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 12556(a):
No person may openly display or expose any imitation firearm, as defined in Section 12550, in a public place.
(e) For purposes of this section, the term "public place" means an area open to the public and includes streets, sidewalks, bridges, alleys, plazas, parks, driveways, front yards, parking lots, automobiles, whether moving or not, and buildings open to the general public, including those that serve food or drink, or provide entertainment, and the doorways and entrances to buildings or dwellings.

CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 12550©:
"Imitation firearm" means any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm.

CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 12553(a)(1) :
Any person who changes, alters, removes, or obliterates any coloration or markings that are required for by any applicable state or federal law or regulation, for any imitation firearm, or device described in subdivision © of Section 12555, in any way that makes the imitation firearm or device look more like a firearm is guilty of a misdemeanor."

Not much that can be done about that, though as said it seems like they would want to update the link to the weapons policy on their main page.

For people having issue with that strange "50%" rule, I wonder if you could split a gun vertically and paint the left side, for example, the "proper" colors and paint the right side in one of their 'safety colors'. That way you could at least take angled photos and have your props not look like your little brother decided to play with your paints the day of the convention. :lost:

Technowraith
06-06-2011, 08:37 PM
For people having issue with that strange "50%" rule, I wonder if you could split a gun vertically and paint the left side, for example, the "proper" colors and paint the right side in one of their 'safety colors'. That way you could at least take angled photos and have your props not look like your little brother decided to play with your paints the day of the convention. :lost:

I asked about doing that with Ebony, and was given a rather rude answer in return:

"That sounds like an attempt to skirt the gun painting policy, which would result in my kicking your ass outta the con faster then you can think about doing it. So DON'T. The policy is there for a reason. California state law being the reason. Your point is only one of the hundreds if not thousands that we get every year. And we've said no to all of them, which makes you no different than anyone else asking a question like this. READ THE POLICY and make sure you follow it.

-AX Access Control"


From the sounds of it, you're not allowed to do that. I'd guess (correctly most likely) that the "true" side of Ebony could be mistaken for a real gun still. I mean they could have worded it much more nicely really. For the most part, this response pretty much just turned me off to going to AX. For the most part, if they talk to people this way in an EMAIL, I'd sure as hell wouldn't want to waste my breath or time talking to these people in real life. Granted AX as a con is probably a decent experience, but not the way they treat attendees. And they want to know why fewer people are going.

Anywhoo... Now I got an extra set of wood blanks for Ebony and Ivory... Guess I'll have to make 'em up and sell them.

2DLogic
06-06-2011, 10:18 PM
That is very surprising for having asked a legitimate question, which while perhaps not in spirit... in letter, does follow their rules.

While I'm sure they do have lots of people trying to skirt the rules, and millions upon millions of repeat questions(partly due to their ambiguous and contradictory rules), there is simply no excuse for that kind of rude response.

This is especially true for an organization that one assumes, would like to be seen as professional. I don't blame you in the slightest for not wanting to attend.

Anyway, good luck on building your props. Feel free to ask if you need any help when constructing Ebony and Ivory. Or Rebellion, Blue Rose, or Red Queen for that matter. :)

Technowraith
06-06-2011, 11:23 PM
That is very surprising for having asked a legitimate question, which while perhaps not in spirit... in letter, does follow their rules.

While I'm sure they do have lots of people trying to skirt the rules, and millions upon millions of repeat questions(partly due to their ambiguous and contradictory rules), there is simply no excuse for that kind of rude response.

This is especially true for an organization that one assumes, would like to be seen as professional. I don't blame you in the slightest for not wanting to attend.

Anyway, good luck on building your props. Feel free to ask if you need any help when constructing Ebony and Ivory. Or Rebellion, Blue Rose, or Red Queen for that matter. :)

I hear ya... My group is actually gonna dump AX and hit Fanime or PAX, or PMX (one of those lol. I hear they're the better west coast cons).

As for the props, I'll probably be stopping in regularly to ask questions. Kinda stalled on Nero right now cuz I got way lazy today and didn't do the stuff I wanted to do today for moving Devil Bringer forward. So I'm be making the 2 Ebony and Ivory sets, Devil Bringer, Blue Rose and Red Queen and also Rebellion. Damn... better get crackin... LoL