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Tenshisama
07-29-2002, 04:02 PM
When LazyAngel and I were looking at some of the otakon pics, she noticed a lack of posing... which in the end looks kinda odd and almost seems to detract from the costume...

I can understand not posing, because it seems really unnatural unless you are into photographic or drama or something... so I figured this would be a good place for everybody to give suggestions on good ways to think about posing for pictures and such. For example, when you think of how you might pose for pictures, do you look at existing pictures of the character or just create something? etc etc

Ina
07-29-2002, 04:06 PM
i look at existing pictures of the character, like the main pose of the character where the character does the same pose on every picture, i also create my own poses and practice it in front of my mirror in my costume, fun ^_^

Jinx
07-29-2002, 04:57 PM
Same here!! Although, I didn't study Honey well enough before, so I only did one pose and then made up the rest. :P

I always try to be in character though, even when I do make up my own poses.

Kaitou
07-29-2002, 05:18 PM
I do main poses or character poses. i can't find many Ota2002 pics yet, anyone feel free to help poor lil me. Lord knows our group and when we were out individually we couldn't take two steps w/o a pic being taken. *Was blind, really she was*

I actually conversed with someone the other day on this. My pet peeve on posing? if you're a girl playing a boy, don't stand like a girl!!!!

Shinobu
07-29-2002, 06:24 PM
I only got to get my pictueres taken with one costume since I only went to one day of the con. ^^;
Well I posed with a Sailor Iron mouse (I was Mars) and she put her arm around me right away as the pose so that's how it was. ^^;;
And I got my picture taken in from of a sailor moon cut-out so I posed like I was about to punch Usagi in the face. :p
And another picture I just posed with my hands on my hips... ^^;

arisuchan
07-29-2002, 06:36 PM
mostly i try to do a character's signature pose like most people, but if not I try to do something "in character." Most of my costumes have been with other people so we try to interact when together, for example while Lady Somairot and I were in our Bloodlust costumes we posed with her biting my neck cause it was fun *^^*

Ayaka
07-29-2002, 07:05 PM
I'm really terrible at posing. When I was asked to pose as Haruko looking scary, I wound up looking possessed (in a bad way, I think). I think some people are just posing challenged, especially if it's not a character that has a signature pose. I have trouble cause I can't exactly do the "smile and victory" standard pose, since the characters I've done would SO not ever do that. Well I hope people have some tips I can use . . . and don't be too hard on the posing challlenged! ^^;;;

To my credit, I don't pose smiling with characters who don't smile. Even if people have decided I'm depressed as a result . . .

kelldar
07-29-2002, 07:25 PM
I usually end up doing pretty much the same thing for everything. ><; And then when asked to do another pose for a second shot, I end up going, "uh...................." *turn to the side and does the same thing* heh

Himemiya
07-29-2002, 09:02 PM
When I work really hard on a costume, I tend to not get it done in time to really think up a good pose O.o All my Emi poses were horrible...
But now I know! :D
Photographers can be intimidating, too, with their big scary flashes O.O

Neon Genocide
07-29-2002, 09:16 PM
Just by watching the movie and or game I pick up there actions and poses, maybe putting a little twist on it and keep it looking natural. People should just try something, it always comes out better than just standing there.

ReiChan
07-29-2002, 11:20 PM
I'm pose-challenged. I felt so bad, I did the victory pose thing in my picture on Fan's View. (bad, bad me). Especially bad because I was wearing my Haruko costume >_< I know, I'm horrible. I'm also one of those people who smiles reflexively in front of cameras. Ick. I'm going to have to try and change that in the future, but I've only cosplayed once, and I was a little overwhelmed by the whole picture thing. @_@ I felt so bad, another Haruko cosplayer asked me to pose with her, and I did some dumb-ass catgirl-type pose. That might have been you, Ayaka, I dunno. If so, I'm sorry! I felt like such a tool, lol. Oy.

Tenshi
07-29-2002, 11:52 PM
I'm very bad at posing >.<. My worst fault is that I forget to smile. I HATED smiling for pics when I was a kid, and it's haunting me now. Also, I had NO idea how to pose while in Pretear. The only real pose she has is her attack pose, and I think it looks kinda ecchi ^^;;. So I didn't do it, but my poses were absolutely horrible at AX ;_;.

I'm gonna get this to an art one day, I swear ._.

Shinobu
07-30-2002, 12:04 AM
now that I think of it not many people I took pics of posed... Well a lot posed but some didnt.... I just noticed now... But the cool poses like Selphie's victory pose is simple to do. ^^:

Mikagami
07-30-2002, 11:18 AM
Posing is one thing I need to work on when I cosplay again. For all the pictures I took when I was dressed as Shishio at AZ, I didn't really make any attempt to pose, not even for the Fan's View picture. Plus, I couldn't think of any good poses other than random glove adjusting and whatnot. ~_~

Ayaka
07-30-2002, 09:13 PM
Rei-chan - catgirl Haruko, lol. Nope, not me; though it might have been Nanakaoru . . . I only have a pic of me with her, none of the other Harukos! Shame on me for being late to the FLCL gathering! ;_;

Personally I'm deeply ashamed that I got my photo taken by a Japanese cosplayer and it was Sunday, I was worn out, and I think I posed in a REALLY lame way. X.< That's gotta be worse than falling victim to the Fan's View Syndrome.

ReiChan
07-30-2002, 11:53 PM
There was a FLCL gathering? Hehe...whoops. Maybe next year. x_x

Ayaka
07-31-2002, 12:58 AM
Yep. But there were a lot of people who never knew about respective cosplay gatherings . . . I grabbed some people from hall cosplay to tell them about a gathering they should be at, lol. I wish they'd put the listing in some of the con material, instead of just on the forum and linked to the site. If it makes you feel better, I was late to the Cowboy Bebop gathering, and I started it! >.<;;;

engrish
07-31-2002, 10:59 AM
I've noticed from surfing Japanese websites it seem MOST of the cosplayers were posing. Compare that to American websites where half the cosplayers either have that, "deer caught in the headlights look" or no pose at all. I don't particularly care if a person poses or not.

For me the most rewarding part of cosplay is making the costume. *I like to sew my costumes from scratch* :D
Second is wearing it.
Third is getting my picture taken.
Fourth getting into character. *something I rarely do, and if i did it would be half-assed effort*

ReiChan
07-31-2002, 12:49 PM
Bebop! Woohoo!! Who'd you cosplay? Faye? I love her, but I just can't see myself in yellow hotpants. x_x Next year I want to do Faye's opera outfit. I've never seen anyone do one of Faye's alternate outfits before.

Madmann
07-31-2002, 01:33 PM
unfortunaly im not the posing type.

Ayaka
07-31-2002, 06:11 PM
Rei-chan - Yep, I did Faye. ^^ I'd love to see one of Faye's alternate outfits! My friend kinda wants to do the casino one, but I'm not sure she'll ever actually cosplay . . . lol. And I think I'm gonna have to crossplay Andy at some point in the future cause I don't know anyone I can get to do him. ^^

And, yes, I think the Japanese cosplayers pose more. And if anyone's looked at Cure, they're very into doing staged pro photos; I think the ratings on there are as much for the photo as the costume.

Medellia
07-31-2002, 06:50 PM
I can take blame for this one. I didn't think Tenshi~sama would bring it up on Cosplay.com tho ^_~ I admit, it annoys me badly to see people slumped over and staring at the camera, without even trying to pose.

I would venture to say that damn near 100% of Jp cosplayers pose, because they know it looks good!! I encourage everyone to stand in front of a mirror and come up with cute poses. You'll feel silly at first, but when you get into it, it's fun! Or draw sketches of poses you'd like to do, and carry that with you so you're never at a loss for what to do =D Besides, would you rather pose and feel silly for 2 seconds, or not pose and feel silly whenever you see the pic??

Jinx
08-02-2002, 01:27 AM
I agree with Lazy Angel. Try to study your characters very carefullly...

I think half the fun is making the costume and then the other half is getting to be the character! ^.^

NeoDrifter
08-02-2002, 02:35 AM
Hi don't mean to intrude, but I noticed too that not alot of people posed. I never really thought of it until I saw a Lulu character doing the exact pose from the game. It got me thinking and then somebody asked to take my pic. I just stood there and when he was done he asked me to do a different pose. I didn't know what to do so I grabbed the fake beretta I used as a prop and aimed it at him like I was about to execute someone. He said I did a good pose. If I find the pic the guy took I'll tell you guys

NeoDrifter
08-02-2002, 02:35 AM
Also I posed with some guy cosplaying as Solid Snake from MGS. We did a "FREEZE!" scene where he got caught by me and I got caught by him, it was awesome

Michi
08-02-2002, 09:33 AM
I tend to get in these horrible ruts where I'll do the same pose over and over, and not really realize it until someone asks for a second pose and I'll just totally blank. x_X I'm getting better at remembering, though. ^^; I remember at AX I was getting really tired in Kuja and didn't have a roomkey.. and I started doing a very simple pose.. and it stuck. For some reason, I keep finding the tired pose more than regular photos. *shoots self*

ANYWAYS ~~ Before going to a con, do a bit more research on your character. If they're from a fairly popular anime, surely you can find posters and CD covers and stuff where they're posing differently. If it's something like Sailormoon or other shoujo anime ~ for goodness sakes DON'T just flash a victory sign, do their attack pose or their end-of-transformation stance or their speech stance -- just SOMETHING interesting. :P They usually have cute poses on posters, too.. If it's a fighting video game, alternate between their ending poses/taunts/starting poses/whatever. Pay attention to these things!

Whereas I get stuck with Mai where she has the same generic ending pose and it's hard to get creative without getting skanky.... or Kuja where he has very few photos and you have to get creative... x_x;

Use your imagination. XD

Nietsche
08-02-2002, 01:10 PM
Posing doesn't come naturally to me at all!

Some characters seem to have it easier tho...especially those with weapons or props...
Shoma cosplay i had tons of poses i could create with just my baseball bat ("batterup?")
Flute playing with Amiboshi was the only thing that seemed natural too...and I'm not bold enough to try the tie myself up in the ryuseisyu of Suboshi pose...
Orphen has like that one pose with his palm forward shooting his unsheathed sword of light...

Hard pressed to find any good poses with Vyse or Reid without my weapons...

Rosiel
08-02-2002, 02:56 PM
First of all I have to agree that posing is a must. Because it conveys the personality of the character and makes your cosplay more than an eccentric piece of clothing, it makes it come to life.

That said, I like posing in character. I nearly choked on my orange juice when I came across a photo of a Jibrille cosplayer with her skirt pulled up in the slutty Mad Hatter pose. O_O Poses should fit the character. They don't have to be FROM the show, because sometimes you're terribly limited, but they have to portray what the character is like.

I tend to have the bad habit of getting used to a pose and snapping into it the second a camera is aimed at me (it was especially prevalent with Zoisite). The good part is that you KNOW the picture will come nicely since you've practiced and know just the right angle for it to look good... the bad is that you look the same on every picture you see. ^___^

That's why I like group photos, you have more possibilities for posing!

Bobbi
08-02-2002, 07:54 PM
I just look at pictures and try to copy poses. Haha. For Rinoa, I only had like one pose, the famous point to the shooting star. For Utena, I had a few poses, but I only ended up using one when people asked for a picture. Oh well, maybe next time. ^_^;

Nadeshiko
08-02-2002, 09:52 PM
No offense to Kev, but sometimes he takes pics right out of the blue (ie: candid style). That could be one of the reasons.

It's always nice when you study the character you are. For instance, I was Kyoko from Rival Schools. A friend of mine asked me to do it. I never played the game before, and my friend had to fill me in. Someone mentioned a while ago, energy goes with the character you are. It's like, you're never fully dressed without a smile.

There's this one photographer I really like. He's the one from Rising Sun. Speaking of poses, I loved his section on the Spiderman and Walk Like an Egpytian stuffs. ^^

Pollyanna
08-03-2002, 12:02 AM
Michi made a good point...sometimes one pose isn't enough, I guess. I remember someone asking me for another pose when I was Bridget and I had NO idea what to do. I'm sure it was pretty lame, whatever it was.
Also, it may not be enough to just practice poses...you might wanna practice with your costume on. I made that horrible mistake with Bridget...cause I had a lot of good poses, but when I put the costume on, I had a giant handcuff around my waist and it got in the way of every pose I was gonna do. When I came up with some dumb pose, I thought it would do...but when I saw pictures of myself, it made my arms look huge and my neck disappear...so I looked...just...terrible.
Some poses looked forced, too...so whatever it is, it should be natural. Well...really, when I remember, I try to walk and move like my character somewhat at least, so posing comes very natural afterwards in most cases.

NeoDrifter
08-03-2002, 12:19 AM
this was my first year to wear a costume, and when I first got there I was surprised at how many people were recording me with thier cams. I didn't know what to do, but my friend said I had to be in character. I should have done more research on my character cause I had no idea what to do. I just acted like a soldier would...hopefully the pics weren;t too bad. I'll let you know if I ever find them, they'll be on my webpage

Mei Lan Chang
08-03-2002, 12:29 AM
The difference between plain ol' costuming and COSPLAY, is all in the pose (and attitude, and voice, and word choice...blah blah). I believe it is absolutly needed for a pose to be there for the camera. I mean jeez, if you smile while wearing a Heero costume or you don't smile while wearing a Video Girl Ai costume, where's the fun? Where's the belief that you are infact that character? I am just babbling...I guess that's ok since this is the babble board, but keep those poses!

NeoDrifter
08-03-2002, 12:35 AM
your right, from what you say is now my policy whenever I cosplay. You have inspired me, thanks! ^_^

Ayaka
08-03-2002, 01:25 AM
Yeah, I do have one piece of advice for people, that I haven't been able to take yet . . . DON'T CARRY A BAG. If you have one like your character has, or one that goes with the costume fairly well, go for it, for sure. But a bag is a serious impairment otherwise, because a) you can't pose well with it if you keep it on and it may look stupid with your costume, and b) if you have to drop all your stuff in a panic when you get asked for a photo, you wind up having no time/presence of mind to pose. oO;;;;

So far, though, I haven't had costumes with matching bags, pockets, or friends to hold my stuff so I haven't been able to follow this . . . but believe me, I think it impairs getting into character, besides mussing up your outfit and being a general pain. So, lesson for today, bring pack animals - uhh, I mean FRIENDS! Friends! - or try your best to leave the bag in the room!

Nadeshiko - Yeah, the guy from Rising Sun takes especially nice photos! I'm pretty sure he's the one who asked me for other poses, too. (And after two I was pretty stumped lol.)

NeoDrifter
08-03-2002, 01:31 AM
oh man that reminds me of when I just gotten into otakon. I was holding my bag full of otakon stuff and someone asks me for a pic I go into pose but my friend goes "NO NO NO! LOSE THE BAG" god he freaked me out

Pollyanna
08-03-2002, 05:10 AM
I always want to get matching bags for my costumes, but I never have time. Well, even if I do have matching bags, I'll probably put them down for pictures...but at least when I'm walking around, it will look better. Pictures aren't the only time you need to look your best, right?
I had it pretty good for Bridget. He has a teddy bear that he fights with, so I got a teddybear backpack...I don't think it made it into any pictures, but...it would have been OK if it did.

Mei Lan Chang
08-03-2002, 10:22 AM
Ayaka, I couldn't agree with you more. By the end of Comic Con I had by back pack full of stuff and a small human sized con bag full of free stuff. Pictures were no easy task. You can really work up a sweat putting your bags down when you hear the common "Dude, can I take your picture?", posing for three or more shots, and then picking up all your bags again. It gets even more complicated if you want a pic of them! Kudos to all you costumed up bag carriers.

Scoti
08-03-2002, 07:34 PM
I always have a problem with bags because most if not all convetions don't have lockers or any place to put them unless you have a room (which I didn't one year). I know the answer would be "why did you bring a bag in the first place" but I just can't help it! I don't bring like a schoolbag but I end up collecting things ^ ^;; anyway my main argument is that convention centers should have lockers

Rosiel
08-04-2002, 12:00 PM
Bags. *lol*

My one experience with a bag was with my white Rosiel outfit. In the picture he holds a human skull. So I just bought one, made a huge hole in it, added a strap and used it as a handbag.

But generally I just travel light. Money in a pouch around my neck and my room key taped to my badge. Or I beg a friend to carry them for me.

As for when you HAVE to have a bag...

At AX I had a long vinyl trench so for each photo op I hid the bag in the folds. LOL It works, you can't spy the HUGE bag in any of the pictures!

Ayaka
08-04-2002, 03:45 PM
Yeah, lockers, that would be great! Even if you're staying in the hotel, because sometimes it's not nearby, or you're on the 10th floor and the elevator takes FOREVER.

Human skull handbag, my friend would worship you for that, lol. Money in a pouch, I (sadly) hadn't thought of that. Rosiel, I can't believe you had a bag! That must be the costume I have a pic of you in!

Jinx
08-04-2002, 11:22 PM
When I was in my Honey costume, I had wings, so I made my bf carry around my backpack. >:)

Kurenai
08-07-2002, 05:50 PM
I decided I would pop up one of my hips whenever I posed as Ayla...and it made my midsection look.....odd? off-kilter? Note to self not to do that again ^^ ::sweatdrop:: At least the cat pose turned out okay ^_^

Rosiel
08-07-2002, 06:37 PM
> Note to self not to do that again ^^ ::sweatdrop::

That happens to me often LOL It's the second time I wear my costume that all my poses look good. ^__^;;;;

ME-MANIA-Sama
08-07-2002, 06:40 PM
I always pose, and I try to mix it up, although it seems one pose prevails overall 'cuz it's easier to pose for like a 1 second quick "Can I take your Picture?" type thing.

L to the 3rd
08-07-2002, 07:27 PM
I look at the Japanese cosplayers
cuz they know how to pose so well.

KuroBara
08-07-2002, 08:19 PM
I pretty much do what everyone else suggested, fairly well known poses from posters, cd covers, etc. It definitely is something you have to practice and get comfortable with. It's easier when you have a partner or group since you can play off each other.

My favorite pose was requested at Otakon. I was Narusegawa Naru, and my bf was Seta-san with Tama-chan in his lab coat pocket. The photographer walked right up to us, took a pic, then asked my bf to take Tama out of his pocket and put it on his head! I would love to find that picture!

NeoDrifter
08-08-2002, 12:58 PM
I FOUND IT YES YES THANK YOU RISING SUN!! http://www.risingsun.net/gallery/otakon2002/19/source/o2002-1112.shtml

ME-MANIA-Sama
08-08-2002, 01:43 PM
Uwah? Who're you there? >_<

NeoDrifter
08-08-2002, 01:46 PM
I'm Hunk from Resident Evil

ME-MANIA-Sama
08-08-2002, 01:48 PM
AGH! Man.... no offense, but no wonder nobody recognized you! You needed a Gas Masky thing!

NeoDrifter
08-08-2002, 03:18 PM
I had one on my side, but putting thta thing on was a hassle

NeoDrifter
08-08-2002, 03:18 PM
look close on my side and you'll see one

GoGo
08-08-2002, 03:27 PM
Dont forget the properties of the picture is also up to the photographer. more people need to take the time to take good pictures too ;) I'm not saying that any pictures are bad either.

ME-MANIA-Sama
08-08-2002, 04:33 PM
Okay I see it now...