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Unread 08-20-2007, 04:45 PM   #5236
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The logic of this baffles me. Jack Sparrow didn't exist before Johnny Depp put on his outfit and started acting like Keith Richards. How can you like someone's portrayal better than the person whom practically invented the character? He's just ACTING like Johnny Depp's interpretation, it's the same thing...

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There is a method to my madness. I don't like Johnny Depp, never have, never will. I don't like how Johnny acted as Jack - it was annoying. But SC added his own interpretation to the Jack Sparrow character. I liked that. That's that. If you do not understand it, I cannot help you any further.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 04:48 PM   #5237
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I think I'd be just as annoyed, too, though. xD Why not try and convince her to do a different costume if you really don't want you two being the same thing?
^.^ Because for her, she's only just thinking about doing it. She's already said she'd rather do something more stylized than the character first...though I'd love to see her cosplay this character's mother; she'd be absolutely gorgeous as that character's mother.

Besides, it's not like I was going around going, "I'm going to do x variant of Y character at Z con", so she really wouldn't have known otherwise.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 05:02 PM   #5238
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There is a method to my madness. I don't like Johnny Depp, never have, never will. I don't like how Johnny acted as Jack - it was annoying. But SC added his own interpretation to the Jack Sparrow character. I liked that. That's that. If you do not understand it, I cannot help you any further.
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I am guilty of saying that - and in my opinion I liked their version better and his acting. Personally I really don't like Johnny Depp as a person or an actor so him doing one of my favorite characters just doesn't really make me like him any better. I told Sithcomaro that I thought he was better then the real Johnny because he's got tons of videos on youtube of his Sparrow cosplay that I find hysterical. While I just find Johnny Depp annoying.
...How can Jack Sparrow be one of your favourite characters when you hate the way he was canonically portrayed? How can you like someone's imitation of a character but not the real thing, and still claim that he's your favourite character? Surely you must like Jack Sparrow when Johnny plays him, because otherwise he wouldn't BE one of your favourite characters.

There is no method to your madness. :/ I honestly think it's insulting to Johnny Depp to say that you'd prefer an imitation over the man who created the character. If it weren't for him, Jack Sparrow wouldn't be nearly as popular as he is now.

Did I mention that Johnny got an Oscar nomination for Best Actor for Jack Sparrow? BEST ACTOR? Jesus, give him some credit.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 05:24 PM   #5239
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There is a method to my madness. I don't like Johnny Depp, never have, never will. I don't like how Johnny acted as Jack - it was annoying. But SC added his own interpretation to the Jack Sparrow character. I liked that. That's that. If you do not understand it, I cannot help you any further.
I don't see his own interpretation. I see him dressed as the character as Johnny portrayed him, and I see him sauntering about and slurring like Keith Richards. Jack's unique fashion sense and manner of speech were not created by the screenwriter or the director, as with many movie characters. The things that made Jack unique were created by Johnny Depp. That is why he got the oscar nom in the first place.

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Unread 08-20-2007, 05:26 PM   #5240
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I have to agree with Danzikumaru and Angathol here. It would make sense if Jack Sparrow was already an existing character from a book or even a long running play and the film was based on that, but he's not. And in this case it's even moreso Depp's because he had a lot of influence in the way the final result came about. Johnny Depp=Jack Sparrow. There's no way to logically seperate that. No logic at all. You may not like to face that or accept it, but there it is.

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Unread 08-20-2007, 06:25 PM   #5241
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Yup! I agree. If you really think about it, it makes no sense. You can't say you like a character better when it's merely being imitated by another fan(sometimes poorly). You can, however say you find sithcamero to be better looking than Johnny Depp as a person, or that you simply like his real life personality over his, but you can't say he is a better representation of a character that he is simply copying. Like Jerseymilk said, Jack didn't exist in any other form of book or story until the POTC movies, so nobody but the original can be the best.
It's sort of like making a xerox copy of the Mona Lisa and saying you think the copy is better than the original painting.

Oh, and by the way, I have nothing against sithcamero, just in case anybody assumes I do. :P ..shoot..I'd still glomp him. j/k I don't do that.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 06:26 PM   #5242
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Or I could simply be saying I like anyone who cosplays Jack Sparrow who isn't Johnny Depp.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 06:37 PM   #5243
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I'm going to have to jump on the band wagon here, I completely disagree with you, zipperhead.

I have to admit that I do not like Crispin Freeman as a voice actor, but you know what? I could honestly not think of anyone better for his roles as, say, Alex Rowe from Last Exile or Regal from Tales of Symphonia. Freeman brought the English versions of Alex Rowe and Regal to life, and despite the fact that I do not like him as a VA, I still do not believe the roles could have been better cast.

I personally don't care for Johnny Depp either, but I do not believe that the original portrayal of a character via film could ever be done "better" by a knockoff.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 07:10 PM   #5244
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This is getting rediculous guys. I don't like Johnny Depp. I love all Jack Sparrows that aren't JD. Thats my opinion it won't ever be changed. If you dont like it get over it - and now lets get on topic now.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 10:44 PM   #5245
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So... you basically like anyone wearing a Jack Sparrow costume and acting like a flamingly silly pirate, just as long as it's not the person who came up with the whole idea. (He even helped pick out parts for his costume, i.e. the hat, and many of the accessories already belonged to him.)

Oooookay. You could just say you like pirate cosplayers...
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Unread 08-21-2007, 01:22 AM   #5246
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Alright...

So, I hate gun holsters. There are too many different kinds for my poor small mind to comprehend!!!! AGH! I just need a small soft one that can hold a P226 airsoft gun!!!! Why is that so hard to find?!?!
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Unread 08-21-2007, 01:23 AM   #5247
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...anyway. My new pet peeve is: myself. Nothing is more annoying that redoing a costume for the second time only to realize that you haven't updated a piece of it so it's still made of newbie suck ><

Lack of references for a more general addition. My laptop went in to get fixed and like a idiot I totally forgot to get my reference images, a lot of which I can't remember where I even got them. Some things are such a pain to find pictures of if they even exist.
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Unread 08-21-2007, 01:30 AM   #5248
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...anyway. My new pet peeve is: myself. Nothing is more annoying that redoing a costume for the second time only to realize that you haven't updated a piece of it so it's still made of newbie suck ><

Lack of references for a more general addition. My laptop went in to get fixed and like a idiot I totally forgot to get my reference images, a lot of which I can't remember where I even got them. Some things are such a pain to find pictures of if they even exist.
That's why I use Photobucket. It's free, holds unlimited pictures, even has a search engine to look through other user's public albums to find what you need, much more useful then googling images.
Photobucket will keep all your images on their site, it's very safe.
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Unread 08-21-2007, 01:32 AM   #5249
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Old pet peeve gone! Got a job interview call today!
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Unread 08-21-2007, 03:38 AM   #5250
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Zipper, Love, I understand perfectly what you mean. Depp and Sparrow are two different people. That's why it's called acting.

New pet peeve: people who take things like what zipper said too seriously that they span it 20 pages in cosplay threads. One reply is ok, I'll even take two, but after a while, you start to notice how people will try to force their opinion on you.

2nd New pet peeve: Hellraiser cosplayers. Half assed ones. I get that it can be hard to look like a character from that series, and God forbid you actually get the piercings(please don't!!), but try a little hard!!!! Those characters have too much detail and gore going for them!
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