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Unread 07-07-2008, 06:33 AM   #301
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a funny skit and then it goes to thriller dance.
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Unread 07-08-2008, 11:35 AM   #302
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At the AX masquerade there were a lot of skits that just jumped into random dancing - some of it worked, some didn't. The caramelldansen was done well, and nobody'd really seen the whole dance before. But definitely way too much.

One of the skits actually made fun of what to do for the masquerade, if only just a little.
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Unread 07-17-2008, 02:45 AM   #303
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Well one idea that I see botched up too often is the classic fight skit. A good fight scene can get anyone pumped and by far is one of the more "lazy" skit ideas that you could get away with easily if it's executed properly. However when it comes to these skits they're generally poor because of a multitude of reasons.

1. The cosplayers have no idea how fight in general resulting in poor execution of moves and slow techniques.

2. Little experience participating in fight scenes and as a result the cosplayers are unable to sell the moves (attacks are super slow and the audience can clearly see how far they miss).

3. Little experience on how to "sell" a move (stunt falls, realistic hit reactions)

In general even a good, well-practice fight is hard to sell to the audience as we're used to seeing such moments on screen where the camera can zoom in and pan so we can experience every painful blow firsthand. One thing that REALLY helps make a fight scene exciting are sound effects. Well timed sound effects can really make moves seem more powerful than they really are and help add to the illusion that these two characters are really beating the tar out of each other. However such a practice is really hard to do given how skits are performed with pre-recorded audio. Usually sound effects are inserted to synch up with the action, not the way around thus if you mess up your pace just a tad bit, then it's going to show on stance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWQa_OlmMug

This by far is one of the best fight skits I've seen on a masquade stage. Although it's a bit slow, the actual techniques used by both people are really clean and when they fall you can tell their putting their bodies on the line which the audience ate up in spades.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 05:08 PM   #304
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Unread 07-22-2008, 01:36 PM   #305
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Is everyone really so down on the dance-skits? I mean, Hare Hare Yukai, Motteke! Serafuku, Caramelldansen, etc. Yes, they're over done, but does that mean EVERY skit that has a dance in it is a bad one?

I mean to say this, because me and my friends have been planning a skit where a few characters do a dance, but does that mean it's bad?

I do have back-up skits, but I was really looking forward to this one!

Also, adding onto this, I believe that poorly done yaoi skits are very overdone. It's been said before, I'll say it again, if there's going to be yaoi, just don't go overboard!
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Unread 07-22-2008, 01:49 PM   #306
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Is everyone really so down on the dance-skits? I mean, Hare Hare Yukai, Motteke! Serafuku, Caramelldansen, etc. Yes, they're over done, but does that mean EVERY skit that has a dance in it is a bad one?

I mean to say this, because me and my friends have been planning a skit where a few characters do a dance, but does that mean it's bad?

I do have back-up skits, but I was really looking forward to this one!

Also, adding onto this, I believe that poorly done yaoi skits are very overdone. It's been said before, I'll say it again, if there's going to be yaoi, just don't go overboard!
Yes, it is bad if you and your friends just randomly get into dance for no reason what so ever and it has nothing to do with the characters you are cosplaying. Example? Nartuo and Sasuke dancing to the song "Internet is for Porn". Most people do this is skits, so thats why people like to complain about them.
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Unread 07-24-2008, 01:13 AM   #307
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*sighs* I've wondered when I'd finally decide to venture into this one. Time to open myself up to the "_x_ dance is horrible and should never be done in masquerade" crowd.

Here's the deal with dance skits, siuxsiu, especially if they're the popular dances.

They are overdone. You're going to have to accept that.

However, that does NOT mean you can't execute them well and still get a great audience reaction. It takes a LOT more effort, though. Case in point: my group's skit from Fanime this past May contained *both* Thriller *and* Motteke! Sailor Fuku. Oh, and a couple 4chan memes. Link! And it went over incredibly.

You are on shaky ground though. Because so many people have done them, you have no choice to but to do things well. *YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE* Many of us had been practicing Motteke! since October, and we had started Thriller in January. Fanime is a late May convention. We practiced as a group an hour at a time, twice a week most weeks.

You also should try to do something else that makes you stand out. For us, it was that we were a massive, *well-practiced* Baccano! group (large numbers are always impressive). We also had a lot of enthusiasm, both in our on stage actions and voice acting. (3 months later, my voice still hurts even thinking of Miria)

The key: you are free to do whatever you want. But when it comes to the overdone stuff, you have a much more difficult task ahead of you if you want to impress the audience.
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Unread 07-24-2008, 03:47 AM   #308
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The typical ones: Dance-offs, Naruto, Death Note, Motteke, Hare Yukai...
I don't mind them as long as the skit performers are able to keep their audience entertained... But I also wish that the skit would be even just slightly related to the characters been cosplayed by the performers =____=.
Konata + Motteke = ok...but overdone in many places.. As long as the cosplayer looks good, and has mastered the steps, and added original things...good
Naruto + random yaoi scenes + dance-offs + randomly inserted fanservice used to induce high-pitched shrieking from the naruto fangirls.... = please...no....my ears hurt...please no T_______T...
I think I've had enough of random cosplayers glomping and doing other...>___> things to naruto cosplayers on the floor... *coughsasukecough*
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Unread 07-24-2008, 10:27 AM   #309
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Honestly, there should be more "Boos" for overdone skits. Its just as rude to make people watch stuff that overdone. =/ Maybe more Booing will actually give them motivation to try to be more original. (Its called proper feedback, and not sugar coating everything) Actually I think people do boo at overdone Yaoi skits, you just can't hear it over the 13-15 year hormonal old girls.
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Unread 07-24-2008, 12:24 PM   #310
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To make it short: All skits based on an internetphenomena (internet is for porn, carameldansen etc) are overdone.
I can accept them if there's a 'logical' twist to it. but all this -forced acting- got annoying. If one can't come up with a good reason as to WHY the characters suddenly break into this and that dance, i wish to cheesesauce and popcorn to throw at them...
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Unread 07-24-2008, 06:32 PM   #311
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Honestly, there should be more "Boos" for overdone skits. Its just as rude to make people watch stuff that overdone. =/ Maybe more Booing will actually give them motivation to try to be more original. (Its called proper feedback, and not sugar coating everything) Actually I think people do boo at overdone Yaoi skits, you just can't hear it over the 13-15 year hormonal old girls.
I do agree with the whole "sugar-coating comments" things. Its life, and not everyone is going to like your skit. Honestly, if someone booed at my skit, it would tell me that something must be wrong. But, if you booed for a unnecessary reason (example, you hate Sora and whenever he or she gets on stage, you boo) then thats a problem.

Again, don't over do it and yell "You suck, get off the stage!"
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Unread 07-24-2008, 10:21 PM   #312
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Personally, I think that it's mostly the dance-offs and the yaoi. As well as the 'better than you' skits.
I have personally been forced into doing a skit, which consisted of donig the caramelldansen. That was it, walk on, dance, walk off. It was extremely boring and tiring because they let the whole song play through instead of cutting it off like we told them. Plus, at that time I was extremely tired and didn't even want to be there anymore. Which brings me to the motivation. If a person isn't motivated to do a skit and they've been forced to go up on stage then they're going to seem emotionless and very bored and will more thank likely be boring the audience too.
Also, the yaoi is kind of just painful. Rather headache-inducing. A skit with great potential can be completely mutilated just because two people decided they should start to make-out on stage to make the obsessive fan girls scream. I have nothing against yaoi and I don't care if some people like it but seriously. If I'm going to get up on stage and do a skit, stop yelling "Yaoi! Yaoi!!!1!!~!!"

Lol, sorry. Now I'm complaining about the fangirls.
Anyways, so basically it's the yaoi skits, the walk-on, make-out to get the girls scream, then walk off. How impressed do you think the judges are? I'm fine with a dance-off skit. They can have rgeat potential but have a reason to dance and at least make it a better reason than "Sora! I could beat you up with my amazing keyblade but I'm going to dance-off instead!"

And I don't mind the internet meme jokes but don't overdo it.
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Unread 07-26-2008, 01:20 PM   #313
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I'm fine with a dance-off skit. They can have rgeat potential but have a reason to dance and at least make it a better reason than "Sora! I could beat you up with my amazing keyblade but I'm going to dance-off instead!"
That's the trouble we're having with our dance off skit for Auchi this year.

We don't want to just dance and then go off so we're trying to write a script so that it's not just random dancing.

At the moment, the teams are Lucky Star, SOS Brigade and Caramelldansen and to make things more interesting, we've decided that the SOS Brigade team are going to be the losers and have things go wrong (2 of our team are struggling a bit with the dance so we've written that in). We're having parts of the song get stuck in a loop and the characters keep dancing in the same loop and stuff like that.
But it's working out how the dance off began in the first place thats bothering us >.>
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Unread 07-26-2008, 11:03 PM   #314
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IMO: No skit is an overdone skit.

They all are entertaining, to a point ^_^
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Unread 07-27-2008, 12:18 AM   #315
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IMO: No skit is an overdone skit.

They all are entertaining, to a point ^_^
Even if its entertaining, it doesn't mean that its not overdone. We are talking numbers here. Even if they are all great, if tons of people do it then its going to be overdone after it passes an arbitrary number.


And then, not all are entertaining, unless you are one of those super yaoi fangirls, for everyone else, its just nerve wrecking.
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