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Unread 11-25-2009, 03:49 PM   #16
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Thanks Tanoshii-Chan for looking and giving input
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Unread 11-26-2009, 09:29 AM   #17
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I prefer the black and white version since I dont like the colours used in the costume - they dont seem to co-ordinate very well.

I'd have an experiment with the levels and contrast in the black and white one since I think it could work quite well. Also, as a photographer, the fact that the thing she's leaning on isnt straight across the photo annoys me greatly.
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Unread 11-26-2009, 02:29 PM   #18
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Thanks for the comment on BW vs Color. That was actually one of 5 different black and white variations on this one shotand as I am sure you can see the color one is HDR but not tonemapped in a way to make it look too false. It was done to give a bit of sureallistic look to the background. But everyone has different takes and different likes. There are some rules of posing and composition broken in the shots. As to the pose It is one of about 3 hours of poses with the model. While it is not at an angle or profile I think this model is small enough to pull it off. Yes the side stance is considered to be more masculine/dominant. With alot of models I am constantly saying "give me more toe" ( e.g point one foot more towards me to turn your body ) This model actually looked good both ways IMHO and did not need the slimming effect of only shooting angles. She also could get by showing arms which can be a problematic area. So while not technically in the "rules of posing" as its not at an angle and there is no S or C curve I felt it had a good feel. The composition does not follow the rule of thirds or even really the golden ratio. A little straightening in the crop to level the rail may be a good thing. So thanks for the input on that too many continouss hours of editing makes you miss the obvious sometime. But where even that was a hard fast composition rule 20 years ago its more accepted now. You even see photos croped on the diagonal making everything in it off level without following the golden triangle. But I agree that I should fix that. Before some of these images are submitted for a show I'll take a fresh look at them.

This was my personal favorite from the shoot. Window light as the main with fill from a single strobe shooting through an umbrella as close as possible with the light still out of frame to try to soften it a bit. But again it may not be everyones favorite and I did not process it B&W
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2742/...c8fea852_o.jpg

The one that I felt gave best effect of the location were these two
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/...48fa494d_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/...fd558fe5_b.jpg

But still I feel after the help on the other forum question and at other sites that I need more technology to get more of a "steam" feel to them

Again thanks to everyone on both threads for your help

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Unread 11-26-2009, 08:09 PM   #19
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Now for something completely different... I like this one better than either of those for steampunk ^^;
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Unread 11-27-2009, 08:04 AM   #20
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Now for something completely different... I like this one better than either of those for steampunk ^^;
Thanks Kitty, so another vote for color ? it seems color vs black and white is running about even. I had not done a B&W of that that shot or in fact of most of the shots in there. but the window light spilling in did catch her hair there and make it very bright. The models character is a steampunk/neovictorian spiritualist

BTW some very nice costumes in your gallery
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Unread 11-27-2009, 09:22 PM   #21
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Thanks for posting those pictures, its my opinion that they both look as good as each other. Because youve kept your clothing colours reasonably plain , as of the era of vege dyes etc, you can still look like the genuine article in the colour picture.
I think your corset is very fitted and accurate but , I would dress that corset with a series of brass buckle belts ,
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Unread 11-28-2009, 01:44 PM   #22
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Thanks for posting those pictures, its my opinion that they both look as good as each other. Because youve kept your clothing colours reasonably plain , as of the era of vege dyes etc, you can still look like the genuine article in the colour picture.
I think your corset is very fitted and accurate but , I would dress that corset with a series of brass buckle belts ,
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Thanks I will pass that on to the model. She has been given creative control over the garb I will be working to provice some props and the location for the next shoot. I am working on soemthing with a Van de Graff generator or a Wimshurst electrostatic generator along with a crystal ball for the prop for the next shoot but it may not come together in time.
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Unread 11-28-2009, 02:29 PM   #23
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OurladyC made some good points. I like the color one too, but to give you another option, try handpainting a B&W print. Gives an old fashioned look but has that strange alt world feeling with a lot of control over what stands out.
Some examples http://www.marielizabeth.com/hand_pa...hotography.htm
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Unread 11-28-2009, 05:43 PM   #24
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OurladyC made some good points. I like the color one too, but to give you another option, try handpainting a B&W print. Gives an old fashioned look but has that strange alt world feeling with a lot of control over what stands out.
Some examples http://www.marielizabeth.com/hand_pa...hotography.htm
Handpainted would certainly get a feel from the vicotrian era. Does anyone know a digital process that would mimic photochrom colorized images ? That process was used the end of the 1800s and I love the look of photochrom but I have not come close to reproducing it digitally
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