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Unread 03-23-2010, 03:41 PM   #16
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I find that being escorted by a photographer with a huge camera (and a crew of handlers and flash holders) does lend to your credibility. ^_^; But I suppose that does constitute a "reason" to costume in public.
(And if a photo-shoot is the reason, do clear with the owners your intentions beforehand and work with them to see when the least intrusive time and conditions are.)

I actually don't have much input on publicly cosplaying, since I don't do that really anymore (because my costumes are too much of a pain to wear at conventions, let alone wandering around randomly.) But really quickly on the "alternate fashion sub-cultures" : my *normal* daily wear is much more extreme than that what most people consider cosplay - I don't have "corporate" gear…and I tour factories, visit offices, have been to court, apply for loans, etc. in the same unconventional clothing that I've chosen to represent myself at other times - it's not just personally comfortable, it's actually indicative of my job. But no matter what I wear, I conduct myself in a confident, informed and polite manner - and that is what overrides first impressions. "Mundanes" in my experience are actually more accepting than most fringe sub-culture people assume, and I often am complimented by those sorts of people who are too shy/scared to dress beyond the subdued themselves. I've had years of constant positive response of this phenomenon, and I think it can apply towards those who wish to wear official costumes in public as well. Most people I've interacted with are genuinely interested and inspired by creative pursuits so long as you don't antagonize them and give them small digestible chunks they can process.

I agree with the sentiment that any clothing that is clean, well-tailored and modestly-covering (which most people on the street seem to disregard) is far more of a consideration that its weirdness-factor or if it is costume-y or not. There -are- private places with actual dress code policies, but just double-check those rules throughly before arriving on the doorstep. Otherwise, it is *okay* to add color to the world in a public place - be it through costuming or your normal gear. You can easily find a middle ground where you can be yourself without being a disturbance. Just be a decent person and wear clothing you are proud of.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 03:43 PM   #17
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Ex-boyfriend had gone to the mall wearing black pants, black commando turtleneck, black combat boots, black fedora, black biker gloves, a ski mask, and black tinted goggles. Tell me that's not plain idiotic!

Anyway, use your best judgment, and don't be an ass. Never wear a mask out unless you want to be thought of as a bank robber.
I agree with you on that, completely. Wearing all black is fine. But he crossed the line when he went into a mall wearing a ski mask and goggles. I completely understand why security would hate that. I work security myself, I've even pulled a shift at a bank to cover for somebody once. And yes, if I saw that boyfriend, I would ask him to remove his mask and goggles before going inside. Maybe working security has coloured my perceptions in general- It's not always a person's clothes that say "troublemaker" or "Not a troublemaker". Behavior and demeanor are what you really need to watch out for.

I don't freak out if people stare at me, or look at me funny. Generally, my friends and I are enjoying ourselves too much walking the bridge/watching the fireworks/taking pics/whatever to notice the looks anyone gives us. Go ahead and stare, fine. Whatever.
However, I do draw the line at somebody coming up and making an effort to be nasty, regardless of how we're dressed. Other people can have their opinions. They can look all they want. They can think what they want. But it's generally not cool to verbally abuse people just because you think they look wierd. I wouldn't suggest getting nasty back- there's lots of ways to deal with a verbal venom-spewer without resorting to being an ass yourself. My friend's reply to a teen who mocked her weight, calling her a fat kitty?
She just said back to him "Oh, thanks for telling me, I really didn't know that!" in a somewhat sarcastic tone. But she didn't get hysterical or start spewing curse words, either.

Edit- Yui, I agree wholeheartedly with you, re: making good impressions through behavior, and how genuinely nice and interested the "normals" can be when you're nice to them.
! I've joked that I fail miserably at cosplaying a Sith lord, because I am just too freaking polite, saying my pleases, thank-yous, and excuse me's, and generally being nice to people.

I guess I'll add another "don't" to my list-
Don't assume the worst of the "normals". Yeah, some of them may say stupid things. But you would be surprised how nice many can be, when you are nice to them. Is assuming that normal folks are out to hate on us really on much more of a moral high ground, than somebody assuming that we're all weird/deviants/whatever bad thing?

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Unread 03-23-2010, 03:47 PM   #18
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@Amanita-awe, the Jedi story was so cute! Reminds me of when my sis and I went skating. she wore her cat-hat and big fluffy tail. Well, some little girl was bummed because some little boys were making fun of her. my sister sad down with that little girl and talked to her-making her feel better. Even better, my sis asked if she'd like to hug her tail-she did. I saw this and thought, "wow, now if every cosplayer could do something nice-people would LOVE seeing cosplayers in public".

On Topic: I do respect all opinions here, but my stance is this-yes, cosplaying in public is fun, have your fun. Just remember not to do stupid stuff and keep in mind you are dressing 'against the grain' of society. And also, if you're cosplaying just to get a reaction, Don't be doing stuff that may attract attention...of authorities. Ski masks, face paint and the like are to me a BIG no-no. And if you don't want people staring at you but want to cosplay-refer to Mango's post. All in all, I think cosplaying in public is fun, just be sure its safe fun.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 03:51 PM   #19
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Sometimes "freaking out the normies" is hard to avoid. At Naka-Kon, I often went into the mall that the elevated walkway connects to the hotel. As Lucy, I had fake blood on me and simply walking around scared a lot of people.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 03:54 PM   #20
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DO: what you normally do in normal clothes. Because I trust you normally act like a kind, respectful, decent, polite, helpful, caring human being. Being in cosplay should not hinder you in that.

AND be ready to explain why you're dressed as a pokemontrainer/ninja/whatever instead of going all "OH NOES YOU DUNNO WHAT COSPLAY IS YOU NORMIE IMMA SCARE YOU FOR NOT 2TALLY RESPECTING MAH FREEDOM!!1!!"
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Unread 03-23-2010, 04:48 PM   #21
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Like everyone's said already, purposely freaking out norms isn't cool. I don't walk around in cosplay unless I'm around others in it, but I will go out occasionally in mamba make (yanno, the tan girls with 'panda' make up). After all the stares I've gotten, I've learned a few things. If someone's giving you a mean look, don't mean look back. Hold your head up like you're proud of what you're wearing. Also, I've noticed if you do look like this is natural for you and not like you're wearing something crazy to wear something crazy, you'll get less stares.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 05:18 PM   #22
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Yui, I agree wholeheartedly with you, re: making good impressions through behavior, and how genuinely nice and interested the "normals" can be when you're nice to them.
! I've joked that I fail miserably at cosplaying a Sith lord, because I am just too freaking polite, saying my pleases, thank-yous, and excuse me's, and generally being nice to people.

I guess I'll add another "don't" to my list-
Don't assume the worst of the "normals". Yeah, some of them may say stupid things. But you would be surprised how nice many can be, when you are nice to them. Is assuming that normal folks are out to hate on us really on much more of a moral high ground, than somebody assuming that we're all weird/deviants/whatever bad thing?
As strange as it seems at first, as an adult, I find other adults are much more receptive and inquisitive towards costuming - they recognize the talent, effort, creative expression and the artistic merit. (I still am astounded that my parents proudly show off photos of my more demonic cosplays to little old nuns they play bridge with...to their bizarrre delight) The only secret is to behave professionally (whether you do this only for a fun hobby or not) so outsiders understand you're being creative rather than aggressively affronting them.

In comparison, I find the standard high-school/college students tend to be mortified and more likely to heckle *anything* that deviates from their tiny little circle - probably since they haven't developed their own comfort levels yet. ^_^; I think it's kinda unfair to clump together confused adults with embarrassed kids as both "normals."
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Unread 03-23-2010, 07:52 PM   #23
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It's one thing if you're in transit to somewhere else, are looking to take photos in a particular place and are doing it in as low-key a way as possible or are participating in an event. Otherwise, it's just being a pest.
Going to have to wholeheartedly agree with this.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 08:04 PM   #24
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Out of curiousity, why? If you're not doing anything to grief people (and merely looking different doesn't count), then why does simply wearing a costume make you a pest?

This assuming that the person in the costume is NOT going out of their way to mess with other people.

Oh, I found this:
I guess I'm not the only one who cosplays on bridgeshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/3118985...7610544341968/
That was taken during the 50th anniversary celebrations for the Golden Gate Bridge. And no, the guy in the chicken suit was not an official mascot- he just came for fun. Likewise the clown next to him.

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Unread 03-23-2010, 08:59 PM   #25
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Out of curiousity, why? If you're not doing anything to grief people (and merely looking different doesn't count), then why does simply wearing a costume make you a pest?
mascot- he just came for fun. Likewise the clown next to him.
I can see the pest in amariel's eyes. Makes sense as giving effort into the public eye, otherwise you are literally asking for others to look/ask/cry for attention. If you really don't mean to atract the public eye, you would cover up, private transit, take the back-road, or adopt a corner and have friends shield the "show".
Think about what you can do to no stir up commmotion, if you are REALLY going for a private shoot or something, then you would have some grip of keeping to yourself and be more self conscious.

Theme parks, usually a bad idea. Peeps pay to hug Micky or Bugs Bunny, not Pikachu or Vash the Stampede XD

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Otherwise, it is *okay* to add color to the world in a public place - be it through costuming or your normal gear. You can easily find a middle ground where you can be yourself without being a disturbance. Just be a decent person and wear clothing you are proud of.
I just rescrolled and can only support this by saying, you are minding your own business, unless being a supreme attention whore in the middle of the street for some reason, you're minding you're own business. Even if you just feel like taking a stroll in your new gear in the park with total disregard to others. It's what you do that makes things go bad, like assuming you are jesus.

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Unread 03-23-2010, 09:22 PM   #26
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One of my personal DON'Ts is wearing an elaborate costume in public unless I'm at a con. I usually wear my closet cosplays or my schoolgirl uniforms if I feel like cosplaying in public, nothing too outlandish.

I also agree with what most of the others here have said about behaving like normal human being and not trying to 'freak out the normies' Being extra polite helps too!
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Life is short, so if you want to do it, go right ahead. Just use good judgment and consider the situation. I've done it a couple times. Nothing too bad came about from it. I probably wouldn't in Japan, though.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 10:37 PM   #28
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Why is it being a pest?
Why are you in a costume?

If you can legitimately answer this question in a way that doesn't involve dragging normal people who are minding their own business into your own personal fantasy: then you aren't being a pest.

Most people can't.

If you have no purpose, mean to attract no undo attention and don't intend to do things that are disruptive in a public setting ~ then why cosplay?

You're free to cosplay casually and pretend to be the character with your friends in the comfort of your own private home or property if that's how you get your kicks. But if you genuinely don't want to disrupt the daily lives of others: why enter spaces you don't have to that they need to use?

If you aren't going to take photos, aren't participating in an event and it isn't a holiday -- isn't the only goal you have to look strange to others or act out a KY gradeschool fantasy of being a character?

Why is it rude to wear a bikini to a childrens' graduation ceremony? Why is it annoying to see 6 year olds in hooker outfits? Why might it bother people to see people wearing profanity or swastikas? Why would it be legitimately disruptive if a bunch of 16 year olds commandeered your street-corner for their 70s Throwback danceparty? Why might a Japanese person find someone in a yukata babbling in poorly-accented anime-Japanese racist? Why might those idiots hanging out on the other street corner want to screw with you or maybe even do something violent to obvious geeks in weird cartoon costumes for kicks?

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

What you think is spreading love of the fandom may actually spread a great deal of hatred and misunderstanding for it.

If you have a purpose ~ by all means: go for it.

If you just want to run around and raising commotion in a costume -- people will think you're an idiot. (Including a lot of other cosplayers and anime/manga fans who you represent in the public eye. )
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Unread 03-23-2010, 10:51 PM   #29
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I have to say that I rarely wear costumes outside of cons, unless I'm eating during the con. I did wear my Mikuru Battle Waitress costume to school for an anime club bake sale but I added thick, opaque, black tights and a white cardigan, partly to cut down the revealing factor but also because it was Januarary. The people at my school (I'm in college) were very accepting, I even had a group of freshman girls who wanted to hug "the cute little maid". Now, would I wear that outfit to a mall? Heck no! (I did wear it to Logic, but the teacher is used to me showing up in... different things. )

So, to get back to topic
DO:
assess the situation, make sure both the occasion AND costume are appropriate
be prepared for strange looks, it's human nature to look at things that are outside the norm
behave like the mature, sane person I know you can be

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be a jerk/attention whore
be surprised if people treat you like slut if youre dressed like one

(I also don't count animal ears as a cosplay, and I wear those for most club fundraisers so if you count cat eats as a cosplay than this semester I wore cosplay in public atleast 2 times a month.... We had lots of bake sales to pay for our hotel room for Anime Boston)

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