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Unread 06-09-2010, 08:19 PM   #91
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Here's how I see it: cons are not nightclubs. The only dress code is that you BE dressed. If a con starts refusing people at the door based on what they're wearing (i.e. not "azn" as another poster put it), I highly doubt that con will last another year.

By the way, Kuroshitsuji is set in Victorian England. Should those cosplayers be excluded? It's been my experience that some Japanese love Western things much like some Westeners like Japanese things. Hence a lot of Western ideas and symbolism in movies, shows, music, and fashion.

Just a thought
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Unread 06-09-2010, 09:17 PM   #92
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I wouldn't want to go to a con where the dress code was as picky as a nightclub! That's why I don't go to nightclubs, either, to be honest. With the strict and arbitrary dress codes, who needs the hassle?

Seriously- I would not want anything to do with a con where they nitpicked costumes at the door. "Oh, you're not anime/sci-fi/comic? No convention for you!" Who needs that? Not I!" Truth be told, I've never been to a con where people were picky about costumes like that. As long as the costumed ones made the effort to dress up, who cares? I would sooner see a crowd of steampunk, anime, sci-fi, and comic costumes out on the con floor than see a lot more folks in "normal" clothes, because they didn't have a strictly "theme" costume to wear.
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Unread 06-09-2010, 10:36 PM   #93
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I think steampunk is pretty cool. At the previous con they had steampunk sailor scouts and mario.

I wouldn't mind trying steampunk my self
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Unread 06-09-2010, 10:52 PM   #94
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Now that inspires me. O_O *wants to revamp her Tres costume* Fantastic idea. O_O
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Unread 06-10-2010, 12:22 AM   #95
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i dont mind it
i mean
we have other non-Japanese-oriented cosplayer at anime cons, like those as characters from Disney or Star Wars
i guess its cuz the sci-fi genre crosses over when you mix in mechas and the steampunk genre
they're all connected/influenced, i suppose ^^
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Unread 06-10-2010, 09:39 AM   #96
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Eh, see, to me that picture doesn't look too Steampunkish. The only things that don't make sense are the goggles, the spats, and the brass buttons*. Of course, Link would have a keyring on his belt. Of course, his weapons would need some sort of harness to attach to his arm.

HOWEVER!

I do love Steampunkified costumes. For realz.

*Goggles, spats, and brass buttons do not a steampunk costume make, in my opinion.
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Unread 06-10-2010, 04:33 PM   #97
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Funny how you said that and separated Steampunk from cosplay. No offence, but the choice of words amused me a little bit, coming from someone who actually is a steampunker and want it to be just like any other "genre".

At every con there are people who are dressed in ways that doesn't fit in well with the rest of the con. Sometimes Jack Sparrow walks in on the anime con. Sometimes a random stormtrooper. Surely a steampunker would just be seen as an original character, or another version of a character or so, not a freak. From the people I've met at cons, I've noticed that people in general are really polite and nice. Regardless what your cosplaying though, have enough confidence to ignore straightforward people who's toes you aparently tread on without meaning to.
I just see Steampunk and Cosplay as two different things.
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Unread 06-10-2010, 05:15 PM   #98
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It warms my heart to know that some of the same people who bitch and moan about people giving them a hard time when they cosplay in public get pissy when someone represents another genre or style of costume at an anime convention.

There's no rule against it. Lighten up.
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It warms my heart to know that some of the same people who bitch and moan about people giving them a hard time when they cosplay in public get pissy when someone represents another genre or style of costume at an anime convention.

There's no rule against it. Lighten up.
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Unread 06-10-2010, 08:27 PM   #100
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Funny, I cosplay at public events (not cons), and don't get all butthurt over different costume genres at the cons I go to.
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I peronslly dont like Sci-fi. I know too many people who have ruined it for me~ and I just dont want to get into it. But as far as seeing steam punk at cons~ I love seeing it!! I love seeing the props, the Steam punk versions of their characters, I even like seeing other Sci-fi cosplays. At one of our little cons, we actually had some Sci-fi cosplays that were asked to leave. And I dont think that is fair.
I think people should cosplay whatever the heck they want =3
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I peronslly dont like Sci-fi. I know too many people who have ruined it for me~ and I just dont want to get into it. But as far as seeing steam punk at cons~ I love seeing it!! I love seeing the props, the Steam punk versions of their characters, I even like seeing other Sci-fi cosplays. At one of our little cons, we actually had some Sci-fi cosplays that were asked to leave. And I dont think that is fair.
I think people should cosplay whatever the heck they want =3
Which begs the question; would you consider Ghost in the Shell cosplayers as anime, or sci-fi ones?

Why didnt the con ask the people to change, before asking them to leave? Seems a bit trigger happy, if you will.
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Unread 06-10-2010, 09:06 PM   #103
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It warms my heart to know that some of the same people who bitch and moan about people giving them a hard time when they cosplay in public get pissy when someone represents another genre or style of costume at an anime convention.

There's no rule against it. Lighten up.
^ True that. I've see it far to often. And yes, lighten up and have a good time. Cosplay is cosplay, costumes are costumes. I see no rules or law as long as your arse crack ain't showing. -_- And with that, I am done with this thread.
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Unread 06-10-2010, 09:49 PM   #104
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Huh... I could go either/or with where this discussion's getting... I suppose the OP just doesn't see Steampunk fitting into an Anime Convention the way that (well, from what I have perceived anyway) a lot of people don't like to see Twilight cosplayed at Anime Conventions...

As far as the Steampunk/Lolita discussion goes, Lolita (though inspired from European fashion) Is indeed a Japanese fashion... So I can understand where he's going that Loli does have more to do with Japanese Culture in an Anime Convention than Steampunk, of which its origins are indeed European. (Though Anime does use it.)

To not want to see it at a convention at all though is going a little bit far, though SteamPunk is getting a bit overdone nowadays... (Though, this is COMPLETELY my opinion...)

...Though, unlike Twilight, Steampunk does have appearances in Animes (D.Gray-Man anyone? <33) so I can see why it's more tolerated in Anime Conventions.

....*hides from anyone that might shank her for comparing Steampunk to Twilight*
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See, I think the very problem here is the specific comparisons that are going on. The bigger picture, I think, is the idea that certain groups should be excluded while others should be celebrated. There is still a vast majority of anime cosplayers at anime conventions, so I don't think there's anything to worry about with regards to other genres or styles.

I hate Twilight. I loathe it. I wish it would be stricken from public record and readers' memories everywhere. If I saw a Twilight cosplayer at an anime convention, I might be inclined to berate that person for not seeing what I see: a poorly written, Mary-Sue-loving bastardization of romantic writing. What I would not do is berate that person for expressing their particular fandom through costume. In fact, if it were a good costume, I'd congratulate them for their skillz.

Again, until all these different styles and genres have their own easily accessible conventions where they can go squee together, I think we should welcome them with open arms. The lines of "anime" are blurry anyway, especially as it gains popularity in the States and other Western countries, where genre lines are constantly being pressed, bulged, challenged, and blurred.
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