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[errido]

Yea, so that's what I've been wondering.
Not much else to say, please give me some opinions.

[Av4rice]

I wouldn't mind as long as he/she made it clear, wherever it gets posted, that I shot it and he/she edited it.

And I probably wouldn't give access to the raw file unless I really knew and trusted them. I'd give a full-res jpg instead.

[Shoji-Aoyama]

would it offend me? no. . . but having said that I probably wouldnt give them the Raws anyways. . . just on principle for me

[Surfsama]

You know, in the past I've said no problem - have at it as long as you state "artistic enhancements by ........"

Lately, I have begun to question that practice since a few examples I've seen were just...
The liquify tool should come with a warning, "For Professional use only."

[TykeJack]

Would I be offended? No. Would I give them permission to do it? No. If they want to practice their editing skills, there are plenty of stock photos for that.

[errido]

One stupid question, what is the concern behind not giving RAW files? That the model would claim that she took the pictures herself? Or not give credit? I'm not quite getting it, sorry.

[Access]

Originally Posted by errido

One stupid question, what is the concern behind not giving RAW files? That the model would claim that she took the pictures herself? Or not give credit? I'm not quite getting it, sorry.

Think of it this way, if you had a custom, one-of-a-kind costume, would you let someone else wear it? A stranger/acquaintance/friend/close friend/family member?

In the modern world a photographer generally wants to be more than just a 'camera operator'. A good part of a photographer's style or vision is what they do after the photos are taken, editing, post-processing, even promotion.

Also, untouched raws can look 'pretty bad' as they are just that.

[TykeJack]

Originally Posted by errido

One stupid question, what is the concern behind not giving RAW files? That the model would claim that she took the pictures herself? Or not give credit? I'm not quite getting it, sorry.

Are you familiar with what a RAW file is? I'll assume you do and just list some possible concerns:

1. RAW files are way too large to transfer conveniently.
2. They contain all of the raw data out of your camera including digital watermark which can be edited.
3. Photographers may not want to relinquish THAT much control over their images.
4. RAW files will contain all mistakes that a photographer made in taking the image (exposure mistakes, dust spots, composition issues), usually photographers like to correct and conceal these mistakes and then release the file as a jpeg.
5. Giving a person a jpeg of your image is like making them a copy, while giving someone a RAW file of your image can be considered as literally giving away your image.

I'm sure there are other concerns but these are the ones that come readily to mind. I'm sure others will contribute variations of these concerns, but basically I just don't think photographers are comfortable in doing it. There has to be something that a photographer gets to keep sacred, and for many, that's the RAW file. As long as we have the RAW file and only give out the jpeg we can feel comfortable in knowing that all the edited images that others produce are just derivatives of our work. Technically, they are derivatives either way, but at least this way we feel like we contributed more to it since we're giving you less information to play with.

[errido]

Access and TykeJack, thanks a lot. It really helped C:

[brucer007]

Raw can mean unedited, so that is like a woman going out without the make up she might need before going leaving home.

When it is spelled in capital letters "Raw", it is supposed to mean, shooting it with much more file size and digital picture information, so it is like giving away an original film negative.

I would only be offended if a model insisted he or she should be able to edit my photos of them, or that I am obligated to allow it. I had this problem once with a cosplayer. She tried to intimidate with by informing me she would not post any edited photos I gave her (her loss), and that she would refrain from referring me to her large base of cosplayer friends. I was satisfied to show my edited photos of her as examples of my work, and in knowing there is a huge base of cosplayers for me to discover and make connections with, without her help....Message to her: "Don't mess with the Brucer!"

[Ashurachan]

I would agree only if I know the cosplayer would do the edits as well as me, or better - that is, if the cosplayer has already published some convincing edits.
On an extended photoshoot, I always keep the cosplayer up to date with my editing, and regularly ask for feedback, so it's not like they can't don't have any control on the outcome.
I'm not really a Photoshop master though, so if someone wants to make some compositing I'll leave it to him

[Max_Archer]

The choices I make when processing are as important to me as the things I do when taking the photo. I don't want my name out there attached to something that doesn't represent the work I do.

[Araakii]

I would be very angry. Not necessarily offended, just angry. Whatever they do will change the base characteristics of the film that I used, and most of the time I chose the film for a reason.

[SolarTempest]

Originally Posted by Max_Archer

The choices I make when processing are as important to me as the things I do when taking the photo. I don't want my name out there attached to something that doesn't represent the work I do.

I'm with Max on this. I will never give out the RAWs for my images, ever.
If the cosplayer wants a different edit, they can find a different photographer.

Being a second shooter at events like weddings are a different story (depending on payment arrangement). I'd rather pass on my selects onto someone else in that situation.

If editing for a special purpose is requested, it is considered.

[Hexlord]

Usually I will let them edit the high res jpgs that I create from the raws.

It's quite rare for cosplayers to ask me for the raw files directly, and very rarely would I accede to such requests too.