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Unread 04-05-2013, 03:44 PM   #1
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Help With Unique Bow/Arrows?

It's never too early to plan for next year I say. Lol

So I'm planning on cosplaying Viola from Eternal Sonata but one of the biggest roadblocks I stumbled upon was her bow and arrows.

Her arrows have unique tips and I'm not sure how to go about making them and attaching them onto the dowel rods without them being very frail(they are going to be sitting in a quiver)

As for the bow, I'm not sure how to get the metal/wood look that it has. I was thinking about using wood for the wooden areas and then foam or something for the metal but I'm concerned about weight(It's going to be about 5ft) and the stability of it overall. Also how would I break it down for ease of transport? I was thinking at the wrapped points but I have no idea how I would keep it attached together since I don't think pieces of cloth will be able to keep the two pieces together.

Thanks in advance for help! ^_^

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Unread 04-05-2013, 10:53 PM   #2
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the tips might work if you can make them with a screw for a base
for arrows id use something thicker than a pencil
since its a long bow, the arrows would be thicker anyways
1/2in maybe, not like LotR 3/4 ork heavy arrows

as for dissassembly of the bow,
if you look at the center at the wood part that both "arms" fit into
the front end looks metal, so you could have the outer arm notched
then clamp into the cross-members there
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I'm not sure about the arrows, but for the longbow, it seems that you could make the metal grip out of wire. If you choose to do so, you might be able to use a screw to attach/detach the grip from the wire extending to the wooden pieces. That would break it into three pieces for you.
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the tips might work if you can make them with a screw for a base
for arrows id use something thicker than a pencil
since its a long bow, the arrows would be thicker anyways
1/2in maybe, not like LotR 3/4 ork heavy arrows

as for dissassembly of the bow,
if you look at the center at the wood part that both "arms" fit into
the front end looks metal, so you could have the outer arm notched
then clamp into the cross-members there
But what kind of material would I use for the arrow tips? I know balsa wood is easy to carve but is it strong enough?



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I'm not sure about the arrows, but for the longbow, it seems that you could make the metal grip out of wire. If you choose to do so, you might be able to use a screw to attach/detach the grip from the wire extending to the wooden pieces. That would break it into three pieces for you.
I don't get what you mean by "the metal grip out of wire."
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Unread 04-07-2013, 03:41 AM   #5
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could try molding them, then cast in liquid plastic
trim up some bits of accrylic


i think GL might be saying you can use wire to add tension
either inward forcing the arms to stay in the holes in the wood part
or to pull the arms tward eachother thus using the tension to pinch into the wood

but if you plan on putting functional tension on the string,
id either use a clamp/lock or hinge, or put a bolt straight through the entire part where the wood holds the bow together

id recomend a bolt as its simpler

if you dont plan on putting tension on it, and are just pulling string tight,
make the whole thing with wood, and use strong magnets to hold it together,

optimally the magnets would be tightly inset, slightly offset, and angled tward eachother
since magnets slide apart easier than when pulled in dirtectly opposite directions
(being offset and angled creates a situation where the magnet are pulled straight (off)
instead of side ways (rubbing))

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Most conventions will not allow tension on a bow. That means you have to make the pieces curved and STAY curved.

I've made a couple of bows before. (I'm working on one now, actually.) I would make your curved bits out of either a material you can cut into a curved shape (foamboard, light wood) or a material you can heat-shape to keep a curve (gator board, PVC). The metal bits can actually be metal rods if you wish--hobby stores sell that length, and so do hardware stores. They can be heat-bent with careful application of heat and safety precautions. The two-hole joint should be found at a hardware store as well.

As for the tip, that's a little more difficult simply depending on the convention you're taking it to. Most don't allow hard tips on weapons (they require that the tips have 'give'), but if you allow the tip to have 'give', you take away the structure and run the risk of bending it or having it broken for you.

Normally, I would say to cut craft foam into the shape of the tip twice. Then use chicken wire, bend it into the shape of the tip, and sandwich the chicken wire between the layers of craft foam. Prime, paint, seal. But if your convention won't allow chicken wire in the tip (too stiff), use 1/4" thick balsa. It's fairly easy to carve, but then again, it's also easy to break. Good luck.
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