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[Amandy-Chan]

My eyelids are really wrinkly, and it makes it really difficult to apply eye makeup--particularly eye liner. There's no way to get them straight when I'm applying makeup, either. I've tried pulling from just about any direction. My friend suggested that I hold my lid down using my eyelashes, which seems like it would work fine, except my eyelashes are so short that in order to get a grip on them, my finger blocks the area I need to put makeup on.

Is there a way to... I don't know. Make my eyelids less wrinkly? I think I've heard there are eyelid primers that do that. Does any one know any that work? (Preferably on the cheaper side, but I'm willing to go for more expensive brands if they're the only ones that work.)

Advice in general is nice. No matter what, my eyelid wrinkles make me look like I don't know how to put on makeup. DX

[Viveeh]

I don't really know how exactly your eyelids look, but mine are pretty much non-existent so I use double-fold eyelid stickers. They enlarge the lids and open my eyes up, I use them for cons and photoshoots. Maybe they would work for you to smooth your lids a bit? They're small, transparent stickers that you put above your eyes. I got mine on eBay, and they're nice and cheap, too.

[Amandy-Chan]

Thanks for the suggestion, but even if I stretch my eyelids out, they're not smooth, so I don't really see it working, and if I could get it working, it would probably seem very unnatural.

Would it help if I took pictures and posted them?

[Viveeh]

I'm really out of ideas, then, I'm sorry. ><

[Signal Fire]

Have you tried different types of eyeliners and brushes? For instance, gel liner with a push liner brush? With a brush like that you can get into the "folds" of the skin and really push the product in. You don't have to make strokes. You can always stretch the eye a little, sideways or upwards. I suggest trying a push liner brush^^

[Amandy-Chan]

Originally Posted by Signal Fire

Have you tried different types of eyeliners and brushes? For instance, gel liner with a push liner brush? With a brush like that you can get into the "folds" of the skin and really push the product in. You don't have to make strokes. You can always stretch the eye a little, sideways or upwards. I suggest trying a push liner brush^^

I already use a gel liner. What is a push liner brush, exactly? What makes it better than any other brush. I've tried lots of brushes. I have a thin liner brush, a flat brush (which looks a lot like a cheap version of what you mentioned, but idk), and a curved one. Nothing about the brush made it better so far.

And I really need to emphasize that there is absolutely no way I can stretch it that makes it smooth. I've stretched from every direction. The best way is stretching it from the side, but I have to stretch it so far that my vision is blurry afterwards, and it's still not totally straight.

[Signal Fire]

With normal eyeliner brushes, you make strokes across the lashline. With a push liner brush you push the product in. You place it where you want the colour to be, you "wiggle" it in place and gently push the product into your lashline. And then you continue onto the next section. Because you work in sections and you don't have to drag along the eyelid, I think the wrinkles will be less of a problem. I guess you can use a flat brush for this. Wayne Goss has done a video tutorial about push liner brushes by the way: Link

I don't know if you have tried this already, if not, I really hope this will help you. Best of luck!

[Amandy-Chan]

It's something to try. Thank you.

I did some reading, and I heard that I should use a moisturizer that tightens the skin as a primer. Can anyone recommend brands? Or is this not a normal problem. It's notable that all the article seemed to assume it was because of old age. I'm not old. I just naturally have wrinkly eyelids. >.<

[Ani_BEE]

Do you have a photo of your eye lids?

It's hard to diagnose without see when your seeing.

[Amandy-Chan]

Originally Posted by Ani_BEE

Do you have a photo of your eye lids?

It's hard to diagnose without see when your seeing.

I'll take pictures and post them later today.

[YuukiMoon]

My eyelids are semi-wrinklely so I just raise my eyebrows really high and close the eye that im putting the makeup on.... Everyone says it looks silly xD but if that doesn't work for you, you could try lining your upper waterline since that doesn't involve your eyelids, or you could brush dark eyeshadow where the eyeliners supposed to go. I wonder if they make like eyeliner strips you could just stick onto your eye, that'd be soooo convenient

[Amandy-Chan]

Sorry. I said I'd post pictures two days ago. >.< I took them, but I forgot to post them. Here they are, though. (Please excuse the fact that I'm particularly broken out and not wearing makeup. >//<


EDIT- Whoa! They're a bit large. >.>;;;


My eyelid when completely relaxed. (I've had quite a few people who put makeup on me tell me to relax my eyelids. I promise this is as relaxed as they get.)


Pulled from the side.


Pulled from the top, which not only doesn't leave my eyes flat, but also makes it really difficult to keep my eye closed while applying makeup.

I really think I need some kind of product. Cosplays look best when the shape of the eye is emulated with eyeliner and my face just doesn't want me to be pretty.

[Signal Fire]

You won't get rid of the wrinkles with a primer, but it's always nice to use one. Primers will fill in superfine lines (the ones you hardly see), but you won't get the effect you're after. Always use one though.
To be completely honest, I don't see the problem. The area closest to the lash line, where you'd put eyeliner, looks quite smooth. I do not recommend going above that area with eyeliner at all. Work with eyeshadows instead if you want to alter the shape of your eye slightly. It looks like you can pull off a wing and that's all you need (: Just keep the eyeliner close to the lashline and you should be fine. That's most flattering for the majority of eyeshapes in my opinion anyway.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but really, I don't see the problem...

[Amandy-Chan]

Originally Posted by Signal Fire

You won't get rid of the wrinkles with a primer, but it's always nice to use one. Primers will fill in superfine lines (the ones you hardly see), but you won't get the effect you're after. Always use one though.
To be completely honest, I don't see the problem. The area closest to the lash line, where you'd put eyeliner, looks quite smooth. I do not recommend going above that area with eyeliner at all. Work with eyeshadows instead if you want to alter the shape of your eye slightly. It looks like you can pull off a wing and that's all you need (: Just keep the eyeliner close to the lashline and you should be fine. That's most flattering for the majority of eyeshapes in my opinion anyway.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but really, I don't see the problem...

It looks that way, but it's not, so is there basically nothing I can do?

[Beanypop]

I think that Signal Fire has the right idea with a push liner brush (I know it as tightlining). You can pick up a cake liner and a brush at Sephora, and while it's a bit pricey, it's great for everyday wear as well. Since you'd be pushing the eyeliner on underneath/at the base of the eyelashes, the wrinkles really shouldn't pose a problem. Even if you don't go with this method, I'd pop into a Sephora or a higher-end makeup store and ask for some advice. I'm sure they'd be willing to help you out. Best of luck.