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Unread 02-17-2013, 08:41 PM   #20026
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I really hate the random feeling of thinking i can only pull of male characters when i get sad about certain apects of myself, despite the fact i know other wise. I'm my own worst enemy sometimes. I usally start to hate the broadness of my back and my hands. Then it transitions into, i feel so unable to make multiple facial expressions.

(;^; ) I will strive harder!!!!! and not let myself feel so down.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 09:37 PM   #20027
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I've seen it around lately that people are angry about 'elitist' cosplayers looking down on those who don't make their own costumes. They're unhappy that they don't get any respect as cosplayers just because of their inability to sew, or their lack of time, or whatever. Their views are fair. I just don't share them.

I don't have anything against people who commission cosplays. They can be wicked fun people, and some of my closest cosplay friends have no idea how to work a sewing machine. But they just don't get a good deal of respect from me for their costume. As people, as friends, yes. As models, yes. Makeup-artists, yes. But for their costume, no. When someone just throws money at something to make it happen...

And that's my unpopular opinion of the day.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 01:20 AM   #20028
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Biggest pet peeve is cosplayers who act nice but then turn out to be total psychos when they think no one is looking. I really admired JasonTerror but after what he said to someone on Tumblr, I don't think I'll ever look at them the same.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 12:40 PM   #20029
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Biggest pet peeve is cosplayers who act nice but then turn out to be total psychos when they think no one is looking. I really admired JasonTerror but after what he said to someone on Tumblr, I don't think I'll ever look at them the same.
Are you trying to start a fight? >.< It's not really ok to talk poorly of other users...
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Unread 02-18-2013, 12:49 PM   #20030
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Are you trying to start a fight? >.< It's not really ok to talk poorly of other users...
This. ^

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I've seen it around lately that people are angry about 'elitist' cosplayers looking down on those who don't make their own costumes. They're unhappy that they don't get any respect as cosplayers just because of their inability to sew, or their lack of time, or whatever. Their views are fair. I just don't share them.

I don't have anything against people who commission cosplays. They can be wicked fun people, and some of my closest cosplay friends have no idea how to work a sewing machine. But they just don't get a good deal of respect from me for their costume. As people, as friends, yes. As models, yes. Makeup-artists, yes. But for their costume, no. When someone just throws money at something to make it happen...

And that's my unpopular opinion of the day.
So I should just accept a lack of respect because I can't sew, or because I simply don't have the time too? That's not fair. When it comes to sewing, my hands are basically cinder-blocks attached to my wrists. I have tried to sew before, I really have. And it turned out so horrid I burned what I made and never looked back. Does that mean I deserve less respect as a cosplayer? :/
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Unread 02-18-2013, 01:06 PM   #20031
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Are you trying to start a fight? >.< It's not really ok to talk poorly of other users...
To be fair he does have a habit of completely changing from nice guy to full on angry man.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 02:56 PM   #20032
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So I should just accept a lack of respect because I can't sew, or because I simply don't have the time too? That's not fair. When it comes to sewing, my hands are basically cinder-blocks attached to my wrists. I have tried to sew before, I really have. And it turned out so horrid I burned what I made and never looked back. Does that mean I deserve less respect as a cosplayer? :/
I went out of my way to say that I don't see people who don't make their own costumes as undeserving of respect. I just find it difficult to see something that someone purchased as a reason to respect them more.

Like this. If my friend bought a Mustang, that would be frikkin sweet. It took work and time for him to save up the money, and I would constantly say "nah, let's take your car instead" just to sit in the passenger seat, but in the end it's just an item that he spent some money for. It's not a bad thing. It is what it is.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 03:47 PM   #20033
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Honestly, in my opinion what's meant by "respect" is simply showing common courtesy and not being insulting and looking down on someone.

Example A!
Person 1: Oh my god, I love your cosplay! Sailor Moon is my favorite! How long did it take you to make it??
Person 2: Thank you, ah actually I commissioned it from GetYourCosplayHere dot com
Person 1: Well, it looks great on you! Can I have your picture?

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Example B
Person 1: Oh my god, I love your cosplay! Sailor Moon is my favorite! How long did it take you to make it??
Person 2: Thank you, ah actually I commissioned it from GetYourCosplayHere dot com
Person 1: What? That's crap, you're such a fake cosplayer, I bet it's cheap too. Real cosplayers make their own costumes. Allow me to give you the stink eye as I walk away in disdain!
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Unread 02-18-2013, 06:34 PM   #20034
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I will admit that my smile does fade a little when someone tells me they ordered a cosplay off a website, but the person from Example B is clearly fostering some sort of complex derived from their perceived superiority. My prescription for them is to be pushed into a mud puddle by a sneaker-wearing Sasuke cosplayer.

On a less ludicrous note, I guess I define respect differently than you. Your measurement starts at zero. My spectrum has a positive and negative side, with 'zero' being neutrality rather than a complete disregard for their worth as a human being. In my mind, the situation described in B would be, I guess, negative respect, a status gained from willful stupidity or some malevolent act, while the situation described in A (with a punctuation change from exclamation point to period) would be the change from positive respect to neutrality.

God, Ethics class made me into a horrible human being. Sorry this reads like an essay. I've clearly been writing too many of them.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 06:52 PM   #20035
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Not being able to search for patterns/tutorials because you don't know what something is called.
This also bugs me too! And I feel like I bug people every time I ask for help to figure out what it is >.<
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Unread 02-18-2013, 06:53 PM   #20036
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Everyone and everything deserves respect, but nobody should be more respected just because they bought their costumes. That has no sense at all. Cosplayers who do their own costumes take a lot of hard work to achieve their goal and, when the result looks great, they are praised for that hard work. They took not only the effort to work to pay for all the materials, but also did the extra hard work of making everything. If a cosplayer who comissions is jealous because they want the compliments that those cosplayers received due to make everything from scratch, then the cosplayer who pays for comissions should be a cosplayer who makes everything from scratch. This will take a lot of years of learning and true love for arts and crafts, but if the cosplayer loves it and is not into it just for the compliments, they will enjoy it.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 07:22 PM   #20037
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I don't think that people should 'respect' those who commission their cosplay more than those who make it their selves- it should be equal. Nobody in this hobby should look down on another cosplayer because they don't have the same skills. It's not fair, and that translates into elitism, which I know not many people want to be.

That being said, if you ask a person if they made their cosplay, and they say no, that doesn't mean they put no work into it. They could have an amazing wig- a wig that you can't preorder from a website and one that takes a lot of skill to do. They could have an amazingly awesome prop that- again- takes a lot of effort. It's not just about the costume. A lot of things go into a cosplay that can "make up" for the fact they can't sew.

But seriously. Don't look down on anyone, weather they commission/buy/make their costume. It's not cool.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 08:25 PM   #20038
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This topic is very sensitive. All cosplayers should respect others as they want to be respected. This goes for the photographers and the casual con-goers too. But we don't live in a world of happy narwhals and meadows of flowers.
I'm both buyer and "pull stuff out of the closet and modify it" cosplayer.
It all just comes down to whatever people think. Sure those who actually shed blood and tears are respectable because well, they put that much effort into it. But this does not make the cosplayer who bought the costume any less of a fellow fan. It's a battle between whether the two types of cosplayers are equal or one is better than the other. Ideally, we would say they are equal but in all honest truth it's a whole lot more when they have made the cosplay themselves.
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Personally, unless they ask for a constructive criticism, it's better to just not say anything. Unless, you say something along the lines of:

"Hi, I really like your (insert name of character) cosplay. Hey, maybe you can try to do this here and it'll look a lot more perfect than it already is!"

Please, it's 2013 and I'm 100% sure con going etiquette forums or anything has been up since long time ago. Actually, just respect itself should have been instilled. Of course, not everyone is like this. Many people in fact are great, respectful con goers, it's that 30% or so.
To the respectful con goers, keep up the great work. To the 30%, not all opinions have to come out of the mouth.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 08:44 PM   #20039
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Ughhhhhh the battle of determining characters costume colors. I spent about an hour staring at 10 reference pictures for Sheryl's top, a mixture of Figma's, cosplayers and original source and still i was stuck. I put my hands up and went with what my eye perceived to be the color which was a blue green or turquoise and a dark blue for the band. The colors are nice and so is the quality, if anyone has a hissy fit about my choice, i no longer careXD
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Unread 02-18-2013, 10:45 PM   #20040
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Crap! I just missed a Simplicity pattern sale at Joann. I have several patterns I need to buy from them. Now, I have to wait for the next sale. Since I currently don't have classes on Mondays, I completely forgot it was President's Day.
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