Inventory Blowout! Professional quality cosplay wigs 30-40% off with shipping included - Click Here for details

Go Back   Cosplay.com > Cosplay Chat > Masquerade / Skit Discussion

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 07-21-2016, 01:38 PM   #1
smartinettah
Registered User
 
smartinettah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 3
caramelldansen

i wanna do the caramelldansen for a skit, it finish with it and i have to dance it for 1:30 minute, do you think it's boring? i like caramelldansen but everyone on internet hate it
smartinettah is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Unread 07-21-2016, 04:52 PM   #2
Blood_Sword
aka Shiro Samurai
 
Blood_Sword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,369
Personally I think that Caramelldansen is just... bleh and overrated. It's kinda "old" by now and I always thought that the dance moves for it looked silly and retarded. *shrug* I never understood the appeal of it and even though I'm Swedish and understand the lyrics I still don't like it. Honestly, if someone danced Caramelldansen for more than a minute, during a skit, I'd be thinking "lame" and be bored off my ass and go elsewhere.

Sorry for my brutally honest opinion, I don't mean anything bad. ^^" I just don't care for Caramelldansen but you're free to do whatever you like. There are people out there who like it but I'm sorry to say that I'm not one of them. I'm one of those who get annoyed by it really fast if I hear it on a loop somewhere, lol.

Last edited by Blood_Sword : 07-21-2016 at 04:57 PM.
Blood_Sword is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-21-2016, 05:40 PM   #3
belligerent
Viking Metal
 
belligerent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,302
Do you like sitting through even 10 seconds of something you don't like? What about 30? A minute? A minute and a half? Probably not.

If the Internet at large seems to be at a consensus on not liking something, I wouldn't do it unless you don't care if you're annoying people, and people would probably find a skit like this to be annoying.

If you absolutely must do this dance somewhere, have a meetup at the con for it so other people who don't find it annoying can willingly participate in doing this with you.
__________________
current rotation: Sweden, England, Guts, Tony Stark, Netherlands, Blackwall, Nephrite, Aragorn, McCree
future stuff: Genjyo Sanzo, Wolverine, Saionji Kyoichi, Tatewaki Kuno, Nakago, Auron, Dorian, Hawke (rogue)
past stuff: a lot
belligerent is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-21-2016, 07:51 PM   #4
CapsuleCorp
Future Pirate King
 
CapsuleCorp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 7,058
Now see, I wouldn't mind a snippet of it. An homage, a callback to 10+ years ago when we all actually liked the song. DO NOT USE 1:30 OF ANY DANCE. ANY. DANCE.

Here's a quick way to understand why. Find a song you hate, one you absolutely loathe. Or a politician speaking, anything awful to listen to. Sit down with the timer on a clock. Start the audio, and sit there doing nothing, saying nothing, just watching the timer count for 1:30 while you listen to this thing. Hell, sit down with a clock timer and count 1:30 of absolute silence without looking at your phone or walking way, for that matter.

If you do that, you will realize what an eternity a minute and a half is. And this is why most people giving advice on skits say less is more and shorter is better.
__________________
Founder and President, Madison Area Costuming Society, a chapter of the International Costumer's Guild

COMMISSIONS! Strange Land Costuming - www.strangelandcostumes.com
CapsuleCorp is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-22-2016, 04:23 AM   #5
Syon
leads the crusade
 
Syon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,469
Caramelldansen was a hype, a couple of years ago.
And this sentence should tell you enough about why the internet isn't too excited about it anymore. Its old and it never was good. Think about Nyan Cat. That "song" is probably on an even worse level of annoyance. Go to youtube an listen to it for 1:30 minutes. Now you know how Caramelldansen feels to those who hate it.

More generally speaking from a competition standpoint you'll probably lose against other skits with this one, because its kind of repetitve.
__________________
Me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/SyonCosplay
Me on Instagram: http://instagram.com/syoncos/

Working on: Paletress (50%) + upgrading Jainas staff with lights
Next convention: Gamescom
Syon is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-22-2016, 04:26 AM   #6
smartinettah
Registered User
 
smartinettah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 3
i don't know if people know it in italy because i have never heard here, btw thanks! i cut it and now it's 50 seconds, i hope it's short enough

edit for syon: I don't wanna win ahah i just wanna take part to the contest and have fun without annoy other people

Last edited by smartinettah : 07-22-2016 at 04:31 AM.
smartinettah is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-22-2016, 08:15 AM   #7
StarsOfCassiopeia
Engineer at Play
 
StarsOfCassiopeia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,664
The other problem is that the dance is incredibly repetitive, and with not really visually interesting dance moves. Even 50 seconds seems like a long time.

I'm with CapsuleCorp and Belligerent on this one-- I think 10 seconds of that is probably more than enough. A short callout to the dance as a retro meme reference? Sure. But I know I personally would be so put off by an entire dance skit that's just that song.

One way to make it better would be to work that bit of a song into a story. Is there a reason these characters are doing this silly dance? Does it give them crazy magical ninja powers? Are they trying to win a competition where being cute might help (such the Love Live! contest in LL:SIF)? Or could you maybe mash up a bunch of retro dances, and do a medley?
__________________
Upcoming Cosplays
  • Uniform (Little Witch Academia): 18% (Sewing) Summer 2017
  • Paladin Armor Shiro (Voltron: Legendary Defender): 11% (Patterning) NOVACon 2017
  • IPRE Robes (The Adventure Zone): 79% (Prop Work) NOVACon 2017
  • Leo (FE: Fates) : ??% (Wig Styling) ????
DeviantART // Tumblr // Facebook // Instagram // YouTube
StarsOfCassiopeia is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2016, 06:00 PM   #8
Hunter_Ratri
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 3
StarsOfCassiopeia has a good idea - work it into a medley!

Find other anime dances that were crazy peopular back in the day - for example Motteke! Sailor Fuku, Caipirinha, Paffendorf, or Hare Hare Yukai... maybe something from Love Live?

Other people might remember more but even for 50 seconds... it is a little annoying for man people since it is repetitive. But if it was a 50 second medley of a quite big group of various dances it could be quite entertaining.
__________________
WORKING ON:
Tyrande Whisperwind (Warcraft)
Mage! Female! Hawke (Dragon Age II)
Hunter_Ratri is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-27-2016, 06:46 PM   #9
SuzuStarlight
Hitohira Kazehana
 
SuzuStarlight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 755
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter_Ratri View Post
Other people might remember more but even for 50 seconds... it is a little annoying for man people since it is repetitive.
I think that's the main problem with the Caramelldansen. As for the song, tastes differ, some still love it, some hate it. But the dance is basically just one movement over and over again- might be fun to do it for yourself or to goof of with friends, but it's nothing worth "presenting" on a stage basically. If you are on a stage, you try to entertain, maybe even impress the audience with something unique and interesting, which would be an actual choreography (which some of those meme-dances actually had, like Motteke! Sailor Fuku or Hare Hare Yukai) or maybe completely different lyrics.

Imagine watching a 2 second gif of a wiggling worm on the ground. Might be funny or interesting the first time, but the more it repeats, the more uninteresting it gets. Now imagine that the worm suddenly did something else- boom, interest is restored, because it's new and fresh.

Same goes for Caramelldansen. You just wave your hands and swing your hips over and over- people will get bored quickly and lose interest in your skit as a whole. For 50 whole seconds, you might wanna add some new moves if you really wanna go through with it.

StarsOfCassiopeia made some really nice suggestions on how to include it in a more interesting performance though, so try which of those ideas might work best for you and then present it to someon before finalizing it. Getting a reaction from other people might give you a hint on what the audience at the con will like as well!
__________________
~Work in Progress~
Sailor Moon ~Classic Musical Fuku~ (Sera Myu)

~Up Next~
Medic ~Human Form~ (Kamen Rider Drive)
SuzuStarlight is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-28-2016, 07:12 AM   #10
KuruttaKanashii
Tempest in a Teapot
 
KuruttaKanashii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 822
There is always Caramelldansen Para Para, the extended version of the dance that has slightly more complicated dance moves.
I love doing the Caramelldansen. It's silly and fun and something of an anime con tradition. But for a skit? If you just want to take part, do something more in character. Does your character have a speech or famous line you could memorize and recite? Or just do a walk-on. On stage, pose, off stage.
__________________
Finished Cosplay: Death (SANDMAN), Trinity (The Matrix), Austria (Axis Powers Hetalia), Izaya (Durarara!!), Mey-Rin (Black Butler), Dodo, Dalekח, Mags (Doctor Who), Femme!Gambit (X-MEN), Poison Ivy (BATMAN)
Future Cosplay: MEIKO ver. Lorelei (Vocaloid), Spellcheck (Microsoft Word), Meryl Stryfe (Trigun), the Mangle (FNaF), Peridot (Steven Universe)

For cosplay photos and selfies, please visit my tumblr
KuruttaKanashii is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2017, 08:14 AM   #11
WildSpice
Dragon Spooker
 
WildSpice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 4,056
Caramelldansen is overdone; if you are doing your skit in hopes of winning an award I wouldn't do it. If you are just doing the skit for fun, go for it!
I agree with the suggestions of adding some additional choreography if you're going to do it or do a snippet of it (max 30-40 seconds).
__________________
~Since '03; Formerly CCAmanda/Sorahana
Cosplayer/Photographer
2017: Katsucon, NJITMinicon, Zenkaikon, Wizard World Philadelphia, AnimeNext, Takii
Shikkaricon Founder/Con Chair 06, Vice Chair 07//OTAKON Otacafe, Philcon 2016 MC
Wild Spice Photography
WildSpice is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-09-2017, 11:34 PM   #12
Jigouku Chou
Survival Horror Addict
 
Jigouku Chou's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 330
I would be very careful with any dance skit, as they can get very boring very fast if not done just right and don't seem as creative to judges as a skit you thought up from scratch. The idea of doing the dance may be yours, but the dance is ultimately someone else's making and some judges will may judge it harshly. If you plan to do a dance, try your best to make it creative and make it yours.

As for the song choice, I agree with the others. It is a bit outdated but might be fun as a medley or homage.
__________________
::Previous Cons::
Nan Desu Kan 2008-Present
NDK NYE 2009, 2010, 2011
Anime Expo 2015 and 2016

::Upcoming Cons::
Nan Desu Kan 2017
Colorado Anime Fest 2018
Anime Expo 2018
Jigouku Chou is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-26-2017, 01:16 AM   #13
Amanita
Registered User
 
Amanita's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,547
I rather like the medley idea- Caramelldansen, Gangnam Style, and a few other songs and dances mashed up in a fun way would be fun and entertaining, a nice trip down memory lane. But a minute and a half of just one (not very interesting) dance would be a really bad idea.
__________________
Little Manhattan Cosplay!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Littl...99571773429699
Amanita is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-03-2017, 12:45 AM   #14
belligerent
Viking Metal
 
belligerent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,302
it's been almost a whole year and since people keep randomly bumping this post, i have completely changed my mind, i think you should not only do this for over one and a half minutes but you should refuse to get off stage and the entire masquerade should just be you doing the caramel dance for however many hours until they call in the swat kats or whatever it is they do when somebody won't stop dancing. karl and teabag will show up in the turbo cat, literally do impossible hovery shit that regular jets cannot do, and take you away to cat prison (cat prison is just a box).

do you want to go to cat prison because you probably did not actually do this skit at the con you were planning on doing it at over a year ago? I think the answer is a resounding scientific no.
__________________
current rotation: Sweden, England, Guts, Tony Stark, Netherlands, Blackwall, Nephrite, Aragorn, McCree
future stuff: Genjyo Sanzo, Wolverine, Saionji Kyoichi, Tatewaki Kuno, Nakago, Auron, Dorian, Hawke (rogue)
past stuff: a lot
belligerent is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:48 AM.


Copyright 2002-2017 Cosplay.com, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
All comments and posts in our forums are the opinion of the respective poster.