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Unread 04-22-2003, 03:49 AM   #1
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Ax Wtf?

There has been some disturbing happenings behind the scenes of AX. http://pub130.ezboard.com/fanimeexpo...icID=128.topic

We need some answers! I need to know that everything I've been working for isn't a lie.
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Unread 04-22-2003, 07:38 AM   #2
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one word for that...wow.. if that is a hoax it's pretty damn well though out though you must admit..
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Unread 04-22-2003, 07:45 AM   #3
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Hmmm.... interesting. Dunno whether to believe if it's true or not cuz apparently lotsa ppl juss say stuff over on the AX boards, another reason why I don't post there, but then again what do I know (shurg). If it really is true then.... wow O_o.
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Unread 04-22-2003, 08:40 AM   #4
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Anyone want to make a quick summary of all that for me? x_x; I read it all and I don't get what's going on, but that may be [is probably] due to my lack of sleep.
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Unread 04-22-2003, 11:15 AM   #5
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Hmmm.... interesting. Dunno whether to believe if it's true or not cuz apparently lotsa ppl juss say stuff over on the AX boards, another reason why I don't post there, but then again what do I know (shurg). If it really is true then.... wow O_o.
well seeing as the poster was the founder of AX, i think his words are a bit more credible than just the average poster's.

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Unread 04-22-2003, 11:21 AM   #6
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Lionel posted that link too... about made my jaw drop. @.x
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Unread 04-22-2003, 11:22 AM   #7
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I would want to hear the other side of the story, but want he wrote sounds quite possible.
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Unread 04-22-2003, 12:46 PM   #8
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It's not a joke. The post is very real. The only people really qualified to speak out and be believable are those who've been working alongside with me for almost or over 10 years. But I do believe FANS should speak out as well, because it is YOUR money that must be used to get cool Guests and to make sure we treat the staffers and fans well. Money should mostly go to tech, panels, dances, films, and things that matter to the FANS, and of course the staff who are also fans. That is the bread and butter of ANY con.

I am not an active participant in the post, but I do believe it answers a lot of questions some of us had for a long time. And as you all know, I don't get paid at AX, and do in fact pay my own way (even the rooms!) for ALL the cons I go to. I make that choice for myself, but axing budget for staffers who can't afford to do what I do is seriously wrong.

I really care a lot about the staff and AX and want to make sure things get fixed and now is the time they better get fixed. I will not stand by and be neutral on this subject.

The people who run cons should be people who go to many cons and interact with the fans.

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Unread 04-22-2003, 12:54 PM   #9
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i agree Lionel, the staff is getting shortchanged when they are asked to work 8 hours a day for all days of the con and not even get paid a damn cent for it while others that are higher-up reap the financial benefits. and the staff does it as a favor to the community itself and not to "get paid". i think it's about damn time that things like this get straightened out before i plunk down another 32 hours of my life doing staff-work at AX this year.

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Unread 04-22-2003, 01:37 PM   #10
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Ok, what I get out of it is that people at the bottom aren't getting paid and a few people are mad that they are juts volunteers? Ok, while that "Jennifer" lady shouldn't be giving herself a raise like that, if people are volunteering then they know they aren't getting paid. I don't know.. obviously a lot of people are upset, but I'm really confused.

As Michi said, anybody else want to sum it up? I'm obviously missing some key points ((i have to read fast because AOL loves logging me off))

**edited to add**

After reading lil dreamers post I understand better. 32 hours?! MY gosh. I get it now. That's a lot of work when other people aren't doing as much and getting paid more.
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Unread 04-22-2003, 02:05 PM   #11
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u read that right Rose. each staffer at AX is required to work 8 hours a day for each day of the con. and it's not the fact that us, as volunteers, aren't getting paid. it's the fact that most of us bust our ass to make the con an enjoyable experience for all attendees and to better the community, not to fatten some higher-ups' pockets.

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Unread 04-22-2003, 02:16 PM   #12
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Ah.. I think I'm understanding it better.. but it's still very.. big and confusing. ^_^;
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Unread 04-22-2003, 02:44 PM   #13
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I don't care about the money going to me or the staff. The money should be used to bring more guests and to make our events even better. It's not fair to the staffers and especially it's not fair to the attendees. They spend allot of money and in return should have that money used to make their experience that much better. I'm still waiting for the other side of the story.
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Unread 04-22-2003, 04:12 PM   #14
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no one should get paid for working at, or for, a con. the most anyone is entitled to for their work is a free room and/or pass. I don't see why people running the convention should get paid. it's a once-a-year event, not a job. it's a hobby. *shakes head*

AX isn't going to last much longer if this continues. the lack of exciting guests, the obscene lines to get into the dealers hall, the rediculous new masquerade ticket policy, and the fact that the 4-day passes are insanely expensive... it's going to kill the con. I'm not even buying a badge this year - it's not worth it. I bought one last year, and never did ANYTHING that required using it. I just hung around with my friends and cosplayed. I'm really starting to think the con's not good for much of anything besides seeing friends. >_<
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Unread 04-22-2003, 04:30 PM   #15
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Well, I haven't liked AX for the last two times I went (Anime Con 91 and AX95-01, volunteer AX97) and I wouldn't have been going this year if it weren't for a couple frined that are going that I really want to meet in real life.

I always knew AX is going to go down hill. the lines are to long, the hotels and convention centre are way to crowded and the price to go for all 4 days plud hotel are really steep.

I know the perfect hotel for a small con that would be nice and cosey like Ani-Magic in Ventura... (40 min south of Santa Barbara) and the hotel has nice staff and it's on the beach. I'd love to start up a con but have no idea on how to do so.

This year will be my last AX.

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