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Unread 07-21-2008, 07:30 PM   #1
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Painting Pleather ...

ok... no here's the problem.

I need to get red pleather to fade into black(or the other way around). I've heard of spray paint for pleather (or rather leather...), but I got no idea what brand or how well it'll stick. ok, I've heard that some type is very flexible and won't crack and all problems you get, but what kind of spray is that?

now, I'm starting to... I don't understand what I'm saying.

So, shortly: Could anyone tell me about spray paint for pleather and how well it works and a brand and...

Info in other words...
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Unread 07-21-2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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I know cosplaysupplies sells a leather spray, haven't personally tried it yet.

Though what part of your costme needs to fade? If it's just the end of a trenchcoat or similar, normal spraypaint will be fine for you (Go check out the stuff Yui's done with it!) but if it's a high stress area...

I'm out of ideas ^.^;


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Unread 07-21-2008, 08:16 PM   #3
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Quite a "high stress area", unfortanly...

It's my hands (or gloves rather) The Hand is suppouse to be red and from about 10cm (3.94inch) from the hand it's suppouse to fade to black...

at my other thred (wich looks just like this one...) I was told that leather spray isn't too good to use on pleather... I'd wery much like to know why... ..'
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Unread 07-21-2008, 10:02 PM   #4
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The shoe paint from cosplaysupplies works on both leather and vinyl. It should work well as long as the surface is not really shiny; nothing will stick to patent leather or shiny vinyl/pleather so you'd have to rough it up.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 10:19 PM   #5
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I was told that leather spray isn't too good to use on pleather. I'd very much like to know why.
To answer just this question:

Leather is an all-natural "fiber" (hide of a dead cow, usually) and thus will absorb most paints and dyes.

Pleather, on the other hand, is made out of plastic and will not absorb dyes. Some sprays will work, but they usually apply a coat of color instead of being soaked into the fabric. As such, the coating may chip and flake with wear and movement.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 11:58 PM   #6
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I used cheap acrylic paint--the kind that comes in 99 cent bottles-- mixed with an acrylic medium to paint the pleather for my Ashe skirt and boots. It's a high stress area and the paint survived without chipping or peeling. I spread the paint as thin as possible to prevent that. My concern is that you may not be able to get the pleather dark enough to black before the paint is so thick it peels off, but it's cheap so it wouldn't hurt too try. Just don't get the paint wet after you're done since it's water-based.
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Unread 07-22-2008, 02:01 AM   #7
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puffy paint. see my hat in the icon? the blue is painted onto the red. i'm sure you could get the effect you're looking for by buffing the stuff on. and then re-coating until your liking. It will stay, and is flexible, and you dont need thick coats of it. also, it will have the same 'shine' as the pleather. good luck!
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Unread 07-22-2008, 06:15 AM   #8
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I used cheap acrylic paint--the kind that comes in 99 cent bottles-- mixed with an acrylic medium to paint the pleather for my Ashe skirt and boots. It's a high stress area and the paint survived without chipping or peeling. I spread the paint as thin as possible to prevent that. My concern is that you may not be able to get the pleather dark enough to black before the paint is so thick it peels off, but it's cheap so it wouldn't hurt too try. Just don't get the paint wet after you're done since it's water-based.

Acrylic shouldnt run when it gets wet, since it's essentially liquid plastic. I've had pretty good results using acrylic on high wear areas without it cracking, which is more than I can say for spray paint. I dont know what adding acrylic medium does to it, but I've always done it without and it's worked fine.
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Unread 07-22-2008, 12:42 PM   #9
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The dried acrylic didn't run when wet, but it made it easier to rub off. I just checked my skirt though, and the paint doesn't budge even when wet now. I guess I tested the paint too soon last time. Thank you for the correction.

I'm not sure how necessary the acrylic medium is, either. I just had a lot around from using acrylics on fabric, where the medium is a must. I just added some since I didn't think it would hurt ^_^.
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Unread 07-22-2008, 02:22 PM   #10
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hm... I'll take a look around if I can find something to use, since I live in sweden, there's manny things you can't find here...

But I still need to know about some sort of spray, since I could never get it to fade if I would paint it on...

Might explain a bit more here...

As I said the hand is suppoused to be red, then fade into black about 10cm above. The hand I bought red pleather for, so I won't need to paint/spray the whole hand (unless the red I get is some really... odd red...) so technicly I need some sort of spray in the end ..

At another thred I saw someone that had painted their shoes a light blue (might have been some Sailor Moon costume...) that looked really great...
I allso asked Nanjo Koji here about her gloves (as an example, here is a picture from her gallery http://www.cosplay.com/photo/1259663/ ) but... I didn't get an answer, only that it was some pleather/leather (I'll check that) spray ..

so if anyone got any advice how to get that sort of effect (but only red and black), tell me

and thank you so far for all the advices!!! : D
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Unread 07-24-2008, 02:06 PM   #11
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It really is irritating that I can't make a sneak Bump :'D
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Unread 12-09-2009, 11:06 PM   #12
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To answer just this question:

Leather is an all-natural "fiber" (hide of a dead cow, usually) and thus will absorb most paints and dyes.

Pleather, on the other hand, is made out of plastic and will not absorb dyes. Some sprays will work, but they usually apply a coat of color instead of being soaked into the fabric. As such, the coating may chip and flake with wear and movement.
Oh man , I am experiencing that now.I used , for the first time,Meltonian NuLife shoe spray on it and after 3 days after there is this oily sediment .I did not have that problem when I colored my black boots which is not leather but I used Angelus paint at that time and applied 4 coats on it via brush.But this one is sprayed.

I am really tempted to brush on or air brush Angelus shoe paint on this one, but its a top jacket.Big surface area.What should I do to save this jacket.I am also tempted to use Automotive paint for vinyl and fabric, but the color is not exact.
I will do some experimentation soon.
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hm... I'll take a look around if I can find something to use, since I live in sweden, there's manny things you can't find here...

But I still need to know about some sort of spray, since I could never get it to fade if I would paint it on...

As I said the hand is suppoused to be red, then fade into black about 10cm above. The hand I bought red pleather for, so I won't need to paint/spray the whole hand (unless the red I get is some really... odd red...) so technicly I need some sort of spray in the end ..

so if anyone got any advice how to get that sort of effect (but only red and black), tell me

and thank you so far for all the advices!!! : D
Since you are just doing the gloves.Why dont you paint it using a brush.Wear the glove when you are doing so not unless you have something to put it on so you can really paint it well.Shoe paint is basically acrylic based but you need a finisher for it, so it wont chip away.Coloring black to red might be harder, but red to black is easier to cover.
Check your local shoe store and see if they carry shoe paint.I use Angelus.
Automotive paint for vinyl fabric might work too.
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Unread 12-16-2009, 09:07 PM   #14
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Update:
Try Sem Vinyl prep first and then get the SEM Color Coat paint and SEM Color Coat Clear.It really works on synthetic leather very well.
This paint is a little expensive but it so far I am impressed with it.I dont see any issue with flaking and tacky feel.
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Also look in auto stores for vinyl and fabric spray. It should be with the paints as it is used to protect and/or colour interiors of cars, and if they don't have the colour you need something there should let you know where to get some from.

Autostores really are brilliant so I'd recommend a look around at the same time. I havea really good local one the staff are getting to know me (the chich with red hair who always buys paints and glue and mini tools). Take a sample in with you as well if you can so they can see the stretch or creasing it might be liable to.
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