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Unread 06-15-2015, 09:42 PM   #1
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Final Fantasy VII is officially getting a remake

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Hello old friend.

http://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vii-...ps4-1711559466
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Unread 06-16-2015, 03:45 AM   #2
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Unread 06-17-2015, 03:19 PM   #3
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WHELP, BUYING A PS QUAD!

Well for this, Last Guardian and a few other exclusives.
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Unread 06-18-2015, 12:58 AM   #4
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FFVII, Last gord-ian, and Stert Ferter Ferv (SFV) are why I'm getting a ps4 now
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Unread 06-19-2015, 09:13 PM   #5
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I noticed a severe lack of Shenmue 3 from both of you.
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Unread 06-20-2015, 05:09 PM   #6
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I'm surprised Shenmue 3 got so much support! I still need to finish 2, but that requires an ancient XBox.
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Unread 06-22-2015, 09:35 AM   #7
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PFFFT, way to let hype take you over.

This is being made by the people who think FF XIII was a good game.

Have fun with your "better gameplay" AKA we're going to ruin the materia system, remove equipment, let you only play as Cloud, etc.

So no, I'm not excited, because Square has done nothing recently to give me a reason to be excited.
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Unread 06-22-2015, 05:03 PM   #8
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I'll still only buy a PS4 after this, Nier 2, and The Last Guardian are already released for it. I was looking forward to TLG and "Final Fantasy Versus XIII" on my PS3. Not getting fooled again.
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Unread 06-23-2015, 10:48 PM   #9
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I remember back when I worked at Gamestop and they wanted us to get people to pre-order Last Guardian... many lol's were had
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Unread 06-25-2015, 01:42 AM   #10
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PFFFT, way to let hype take you over.

This is being made by the people who think FF XIII was a good game.

Have fun with your "better gameplay" AKA we're going to ruin the materia system, remove equipment, let you only play as Cloud, etc.

So no, I'm not excited, because Square has done nothing recently to give me a reason to be excited.
Although some of Nomura's comments about changes to the game have me worried, Square understands how beloved this game is, and how much fans will freak out about the game's most minor changes. He did say that the game's goofier moments will remain intact, however, so expect to see

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Cloud roaming around half-naked men to find panties in the Honey Bee Inn, Cloud in a dress, and Cloud's date with Barret in the Golden Saucer,
all in beautiful HD 1080p photorealistic glory.

Anyway, here's my only hopes for the game.

1. Yuffie and Vincent become mandatory characters. As much as I dislike both of them, they've become an integral part of the FFVII story and the fandom.

2. Full Voice Acting. The trailer was narrated by George Newbern (Sephiroth) so it looks like he's back, and you can expect Steve Burton to return as Cloud. Other than that, things are totally up in the air - don't expect to see Christy Carlson Romano or Rachael Leigh Cook back. That said, apparently Nomura has a hand in choosing his VAs in both Japanese and English, so maybe the Advent Children/Crisis Core/Dirge/Kingdom Hearts cast will return, I don't know.

3. Full Orchestrated music. And do not let ANYONE but Uematsu touch it. Give him a blank check. I know he's not with Square anymore but this game is way too important to have anyone else touch the score. Hamauzu wishes he was half the composer the Black Mage is.

I'm sure some retcons for some of the Compilation will be thrown in, but I swear to Gaia, if I see Genesis, I'm going to fly to Japan and punch Gackt in his 1,000 year old vampire face. Hopefully the translation gets an overhaul too, but it would be fun to still see Aeris/Aerith (hoping they go with the former, but they're probably going with the latter) pointing out that this guy are sick. Y'know, for old times' sake.

(BTW, man it is great to have the old band back together! I kind of hope our resident FFVII fangirl Serria stops by.)
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Unread 06-25-2015, 12:04 PM   #11
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Yes but you also need to realize that Square really hates making games longer than one disc these days, so let me ask you:

Would 100% of the content make it into the game with the size limitations?

The answer is obvious, NO.

So you can kiss things good bye, reduced bestiary, reduced amount of materia, reduced or completley removed equipment, mini games removed, etc.

They would rather have a game with all cutscenes in tact than all gameplay in tact.

This could easily be solved by making it a multi disc game yes, and they also should know that if they screw this up, We will never forgive them.
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reduced materia is fine, because a lot of the materia was useless junk

like, who really wasted their time casting demi

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Yes but you also need to realize that Square really hates making games longer than one disc these days, so let me ask you:

Would 100% of the content make it into the game with the size limitations?

The answer is obvious, NO.

So you can kiss things good bye, reduced bestiary, reduced amount of materia, reduced or completley removed equipment, mini games removed, etc.

They would rather have a game with all cutscenes in tact than all gameplay in tact.

This could easily be solved by making it a multi disc game yes, and they also should know that if they screw this up, We will never forgive them.
You do realize that FMVs accounted for most of the data usage on FF7's three discs, right? They could easily accomplish a 1-disc remake since almost all of those cutscenes could be done in-engine AND look 10x better than pre-rendered footage from back in the day.

On a completely different note, unrelated to disc space limitations in any way, I honestly wouldn't mind a reduced number of Materia since half of them in FF7 were either useless or completely broken. (i.e. equip Final Attack + Phoenix, bravo, the game loses, give yourself a pat on the back.)
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Unread 06-26-2015, 08:01 AM   #14
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I'll still only buy a PS4 after this, Nier 2, and The Last Guardian are already released for it.
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WHELP, BUYING A PS QUAD!

Well for this, Last Guardian and a few other exclusives.
Logged in to say something super snarky about this. But I'll limit myself to - I'll believe it when I see it and until then I'm not going to waste any time thinking about it. Too busy looking forward to Nier 2 (with Okabe composing) and Dark Souls III (with Miyazaki back at the helm).

And why the hell aren't any of you mentioning Bloodborne? O.k., I accept that it might not be enough for people not named The Hag to buy a PS4 just for that title but it certainly should be mentioned in the same breath as Nier 2, a FF remake and a game that may not ever actually exist when talking about reasons to buy a PS4.
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Unread 06-26-2015, 08:15 PM   #15
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You do realize that FMVs accounted for most of the data usage on FF7's three discs, right? They could easily accomplish a 1-disc remake since almost all of those cutscenes could be done in-engine AND look 10x better than pre-rendered footage from back in the day.

On a completely different note, unrelated to disc space limitations in any way, I honestly wouldn't mind a reduced number of Materia since half of them in FF7 were either useless or completely broken. (i.e. equip Final Attack + Phoenix, bravo, the game loses, give yourself a pat on the back.)
So instead of the game looking good at random times like the original, it can look good for the entire game on one disc?

Wrong.

Where the original had lots of data in large chunks (FMV's) which required the multiple discs, a remake will need it constantly, think of it as an uphill road, rather than a road with speed bumps. With the amount of detail needed, the disc would run out of space around Cosmo Canyon, maybe Wutai, unless they pulled a FF X, and got rid of the world map. Counting motion capturing for cutscenes, voice acting, lighting, etc. sorry but no, this game is not going to fit on one disc unless you cut content.
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