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Unread 11-23-2009, 01:32 PM   #1
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which is more steampunk

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Could you all please comment which of these outputs has more of a steampunk/neo-victorian feel and why you feel that way
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/43603856@N05/4125764753/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43603856@N05/4120574460/
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Unread 11-24-2009, 03:56 PM   #2
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i think the black and white one has a more steam-punk feel because it makes the picture seem older, and your (or whoever is in the photo's) hair is purple/blue-ish and that doesn't seem very steam-punk too me, the outfit is very nice though.
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Definitely the black and white. But just as a suggestion, have you tried sepia? That always looks best in my opnion
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Unread 11-24-2009, 04:54 PM   #4
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Thanks for the input,
The models hair is purple so that is accurate though it shows blacker in lower light.I am the photographer the model is Eerie Twilight ( her stage name ) I did try sepia,cyanotype and bleach bypass. I can post them if you wish but they did not seem to carry the image as well
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Unread 11-24-2009, 05:27 PM   #5
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Naw, it's fine. I just think everything looks amazing in sepia
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Unread 11-24-2009, 05:35 PM   #6
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Naw, it's fine. I just think everything looks amazing in sepia
My personal favorites are Palladium prints and Van Dyke brown if you like sepia you wouldlike those prints
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I've never heard of them n.n'
I'll google them after dinner
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Unread 11-24-2009, 05:44 PM   #8
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Personally, I feel the colour one is more Steampunk.


The thing for me is, even if you have a sepia tone lense or filter - it's not the same as Victorian photography. You just have a modern photograph... in sepia - which isn't the same for me.

To me, the coloured one just looks better. The contrast of the red and blue is great - and Steampunk is about old AND new - so I think colour is absolutely fine !
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The color one looks more steampunk to me, since...the whole subculture of steampunk is about being old-timed, yet....new. in a steampunk world there is HIGH technology, but....everything is old-timey

think...the time machine.....or....a tesla coil gun

I really like the slightly washed out dulled down colored :3
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Unread 11-24-2009, 08:00 PM   #10
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Thanks our lady C and Braithcakes. Lady C I agree nothing digital would ever have the exact look of the old wet plate processes but I do not have access to a darkroom where I could do those anymore. Braithcakes I will try dialing the saturation back a bit on it as you suggested and see how that looks . I do appreciate everyones input so far

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=] I love darkrooms, just built one into my boyfriend's home last week =.= him and his old ways of photography
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You can simulate the look to a degree, digitally. It's just more complex than simply setting to sepia.


Also, you have to be holding a pose or expression you could have held - this being about three to ten minutes of sitting still. This is why they didn't often smile in photographs.

I feel that taking that into account when taking the pictures helps very much if you're trying to simulate an "old picture" look. Smiling and active poses just look wrong. Just saying for future reference.


A sloshy and uneven sepia helps, too - instead of everything translated to sepia 1:1 by computer.

Also, take a look at the exposure attained in old photographs. Caucasian skin tends to "glow", as do light-coloured objects. Exposure might be uneven.


Et cetera



Also, I feel that slightly TOO saturated is somewhat appropriate to Steampunk.

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I thought about doing some digital TTV work on this ( by shooting the digital shot off of the focusing screen of a TLR camera ) But TLRs were much later technology and while it does give a great vintage look I did not know if it would look "steamounk" Has anyone ever done any TTV for steampunk shoots ?
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You can simulate the look to a degree, digitally. It's just more complex than simply setting to sepia.


Also, you have to be holding a pose or expression you could have held - this being about three to ten minutes of sitting still. This is why they didn't often smile in photographs.

I feel that taking that into account when taking the pictures helps very much if you're trying to simulate an "old picture" look. Smiling and active poses just look wrong. Just saying for future reference.


A sloshy and uneven sepia helps, too - instead of everything translated to sepia 1:1 by computer.

Also, take a look at the exposure attained in old photographs. Caucasian skin tends to "glow", as do light-coloured objects. Exposure might be uneven.


Et cetera



Also, I feel that slightly TOO saturated is somewhat appropriate to Steampunk.
Good points as the old wet plate processes did take longer exposure times but I also used Sodium suphide toners to get sepia in black and white prints from tri X or plus X negatives. There was alot of voodoo chemistry back then also I had a friend who wouls slosh a bit of coca cola into the toner to get the look he wanted of course I never saw much difference but he swore by it. We also did selenium toning but that looked redder and you could vary the amount of tone by how long you left it in the bath and by varying the bleaching

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Hello
Could you all please comment which of these outputs has more of a steampunk/neo-victorian feel and why you feel that way
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/43603856@N05/4125764753/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43603856@N05/4120574460/
I like the first one. It is black and white and overall has a more vintage feel.
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