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Unread 02-07-2011, 04:46 AM   #211
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Do you photographers prefer more candid (whether actually candid or not) photos, or obviously posed photos? Do you prefer the cosplayer be engaging the camera (full eye contact, maybe a gesture), or ignoring it (looking past or away from it... maybe not even facing the correct direction)?

If you prefer candid, but the cosplayer is engaging your camera, do you ask for them to look away, or do you just roll with it?
For solos it depends on how comfortable the cosplayer is with cameras, and how well I know him. Some people are natural enough when looking directly at the camera ; some others are nervous just seeing the camera, and making them look somewhere else can make them ease up a bit. Also depends strongly on the character and the type of expression I try to achieve (it's hard to look dreamy while looking at the camera).
With several people in a shot, I tend to make them interact with each other, rather than with me, so they rarely end up looking at me.
I rarely do candids at cons. The last nice candids I've done were during photoshoots for which I was an assistant/backstage photographer ; the moment when someone notices you're taking his picture and starts posing is one of the moments you'll get a natural-looking expression.
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Unread 02-07-2011, 10:09 PM   #212
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I prefer posed photos for about 98% of my pictures. I like when my cosplayers look at me for pictures, extend their hands/fists, or props toward the camera, etc. I will ask them to look away from the camera for a few pictures, as well as turn around for back pictures if their costume has something on the back. But mostly I'll ask them to look at me.

I don't like candid pictures because some cosplayers may get offended by having their pictures taken w/o them knowing, while they're not looking their best, talking on the phone, eating, etc. Plus they usually won't be able to view the pictures if the candid-photographer takes the picture and then leaves. Posing for pictures, the cosplayer can ask the photographer to show him/her the pictures after they're done. If any pictures needed to be re-taken or deleted, that can be done right then-and-there.
Same here, posed photos can look very beautiful if the photographer can frame the scene correctly. I absolutely detest candid photos of myself, which is why I extend the same courtesy to the cosplayer.

The instant feedback from the cosplayer is a real treat, because it is overwhelmingly positive (in my experience) and if they the photo it they generally ask for more of them.
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Unread 02-15-2011, 11:16 PM   #213
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(not sure if it was asked before but...)

Do you photographers prefer more candid (whether actually candid or not) photos, or obviously posed photos? Do you prefer the cosplayer be engaging the camera (full eye contact, maybe a gesture), or ignoring it (looking past or away from it... maybe not even facing the correct direction)?

If you prefer candid, but the cosplayer is engaging your camera, do you ask for them to look away, or do you just roll with it?
It depends, really. Being a cosplayer and photographer, I've been on both ends of this question. Its polite to ask someone before taking a picture of them. I know I'd feel a little weirded out if someone took a random picture of me without asking. Though if I'm doing a photoshoot with someone/a group or are shooting a gathering, candid shots tend to be some of my favorites. Capturing a natural moment, relaxed moment can make for a more interesting image.
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Unread 03-15-2011, 07:11 PM   #214
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If you prefer candid, but the cosplayer is engaging your camera, do you ask for them to look away, or do you just roll with it?
many times, i prefer the cosplayer to engage my camera but not look at me. so yeah, it is very common for me to tell a cosplayer at a con: "Ok.. ummm, see that guy right there? (me pointing at some random photog near me) Look at that guy." /click /click /click
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Unread 03-15-2011, 10:58 PM   #215
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I'm a cosplayer and I've never done a photoshoot with a photographer before but I was curious/interested in trying it out once con season (summer) rolls around. I know that many photographers will do a photoshoot for free to gain experience or build up their portfolio. For those photographers that do charge, what do you consider a reasonable amount to ask for an hour of work?

(Just curious so that I can start saving money if need be, haha...)
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Unread 03-16-2011, 09:40 AM   #216
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I know that many photographers will do a photoshoot for free to gain experience or build up their portfolio.
Just to let you know, there are many of us that just shoot for free because we like taking photos. A photographer that shoots for free might not be just "building their portfolio" or "gaining experience". It seems to be a misconception among many cosplayers new to approaching photographers to think that most charge >.>. (Unless things have drastically changed and I have not noticed lol) Also, whether or not someone charges doesn't tell you anything about the quality of photos you will receive ^^

*I* think a fair price for a shoot is a few drinks at the bar later lol. It's all relative to the photographer, why they're doing it, how much they want as profit, how much they want to shoot you, if they know you etc. You're best off just asking the photographer who's work you admire IMHO.
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Unread 03-16-2011, 05:25 PM   #217
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I'm a cosplayer and I've never done a photoshoot with a photographer before but I was curious/interested in trying it out once con season (summer) rolls around. I know that many photographers will do a photoshoot for free to gain experience or build up their portfolio. For those photographers that do charge, what do you consider a reasonable amount to ask for an hour of work?

(Just curious so that I can start saving money if need be, haha...)
Kind of what patches said. You should find a photographer whom you'd want to work with and contact them. Many photographers do shoot conventions for free, but also only shoot what they want. So if you like a photographers work and want to guarantee a shoot with them, contact them and they can tell you what they charge.
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Unread 03-16-2011, 05:45 PM   #218
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Just to let you know, there are many of us that just shoot for free because we like taking photos. A photographer that shoots for free might not be just "building their portfolio" or "gaining experience". It seems to be a misconception among many cosplayers new to approaching photographers to think that most charge >.>. (Unless things have drastically changed and I have not noticed lol) Also, whether or not someone charges doesn't tell you anything about the quality of photos you will receive ^^

*I* think a fair price for a shoot is a few drinks at the bar later lol. It's all relative to the photographer, why they're doing it, how much they want as profit, how much they want to shoot you, if they know you etc. You're best off just asking the photographer who's work you admire IMHO.
The misconception probably comes from the fact that normally people do pay photographers when they need good photos (headshots, weddings, band shots, senior portraits, etc.). After all, you are paying to receive a service.

So far, most cosplay phtoographers do not charge for photos. However, if you examine the "photographer available" threads in the Photo Scheduling forum, some of the better, prolific cosplay photographers are charging now. However, the fees are mostly to defer the costs of attending the convention. It is not a profit-making engine (yet).

As for knowing what is a "reasonable" rate to pay a photographer, that depends. There is no rule for this. You should review a photographer's portfolio and decide if the rate the photographer is quoting is worth it.
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Unread 03-16-2011, 06:30 PM   #219
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Even for the ones who do charge, the price range is totally different. I don't think anyone is making a whole lot of money doing cosplay photography. The far majority of photographers are just going it as a hobby. And there's enough of them doing it as a hobby that you don't really need to pay unless you desire a specific style or result that only that photographer can produce.

I've always advised people just to ask around. Among friends, family, anime club members, etc. Or, if you go to a major con, or pretty much any con in the SoCal area, check the boards and there are often photographers who will do it for free.
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Unread 03-16-2011, 07:20 PM   #220
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It's basically been said. There are no set rates for photographers. For those that charge, it's all different. And those prices are as variable as the quality of the work. If you like someone's work, PM them to see if they are available and what their terms are.
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Unread 04-04-2011, 12:18 AM   #221
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I kind of forgot about this thread for a while (oops) so I'm just reading the answers now - Thank you for the input and answers! For some reason I had the impression that getting a cosplay photographer would cost me +$100 but I see now that that's not the case, haha. Thanks!
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Unread 04-06-2011, 11:31 AM   #222
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I feel horrible because I am one of those con photogs who do charge. And the previous post above are talking about people not charging. I think style and reputation is very important. I have somewhat of a significant style but I feel I will improve more over a course of a year.

I don't feel bad charging because I'm confident enough that I can deliver something way out of the ordinary for my clients. Something that their friends can't do or another person with a dslr.

I am a student and learning and feel $15 for a session fee is reasonable for my level. For anyone interested in how I judge prices.
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Unread 04-06-2011, 05:28 PM   #223
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Depends on countries I think.
In France I've never seen a cosplay photographer charge for a photoshoot, whatever his level. One of the main reasons is probably the fact that we don't have nice places for shoots inside conventions, so it's quite hard to organize them there. As a result, almost all shoots are done outside of cons, within people from the same area, who generally know each other quite well...
Take into account the fact that French people find talking about money somewhat rude, you'll understand that nobody, not even pro photographers, charges for cosplay photoshoots.
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Unread 04-06-2011, 06:16 PM   #224
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That's interesting to know. Maybe that's just France. I really don't know.. but I see cosplay photoshoots as a service. and like any other service if performed well then I see no harm in charging.
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Unread 04-07-2011, 04:12 AM   #225
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I don't see photoshoots as something I do for cosplayers, but as a something I do with them. I enjoy taking photos, and cosplayers enjoy having photos of their costumes. For pros or aspiring pros, cosplay photoshoots are great training for portrait and fashion photography ; finding someone who will pose for free as willingly as a cosplayer is actually quite hard (a photoshoot outside of a con is generally a lot longer, the last I did were about three-four hours).

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