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Unread 05-12-2010, 11:50 PM   #76
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I don't think it's okay to ask cosplayers to do that because it will more than likely get them into trouble. And no one wants that. People who just hop onto random bikes in parking lots seem to have no respect for other people's space.
I don't ask cosplayers to pose next to or on a stranger's vehicle often; those two links I provided were a couple of the rare occasions where I asked my friends to pose. Pay in mind that I tell them to be very careful from the moment they approach the vehicle, when they're touching or on it, and when they get off or move away from the vehicle. The cosplayers themselves know to respect somebody's property. It's not like they're trying to damage the vehicle.

If you want to talk about not having respect for other people's space, last year at FanimeCon when I was doing a photoshoot in a parking-lot garage, I saw that somebody had smashed the rear window of a SUV, with broken-glass everywhere. Whether it was for theft of whatever was inside, or just for the heck of it, THAT was disrespectful.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 01:32 AM   #77
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I don't ask cosplayers to pose next to or on a stranger's vehicle often; those two links I provided were a couple of the rare occasions where I asked my friends to pose. Pay in mind that I tell them to be very careful from the moment they approach the vehicle, when they're touching or on it, and when they get off or move away from the vehicle. The cosplayers themselves know to respect somebody's property. It's not like they're trying to damage the vehicle.

If you want to talk about not having respect for other people's space, last year at FanimeCon when I was doing a photoshoot in a parking-lot garage, I saw that somebody had smashed the rear window of a SUV, with broken-glass everywhere. Whether it was for theft of whatever was inside, or just for the heck of it, THAT was disrespectful.
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like everyone meant to disrespect people's space. I'm just saying if anything did happen, even accidentally, it would suck for everyone involved.

Yeah...that's a little intense. Happened to me once, out in front of my house. They didn't even take anything! -non cosplay related- but still sucky,
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Unread 05-13-2010, 06:59 AM   #78
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Question: If there is already a largeish group of photographer's taking pics of a cosplayer, then is it okay to just slip in and start taking your own photos as well?
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Unread 05-13-2010, 08:59 AM   #79
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Question: If there is already a largeish group of photographer's taking pics of a cosplayer, then is it okay to just slip in and start taking your own photos as well?
If it's a decent sized group, no harm. You really only run into a rudeness issue on the accounts of personal photoshoots, or if a cosplayer is trying to get into a particular requested pose and you ask them to stop or...look over here. Just make sure if you want a photo but there is a group, you signal that you are about to take your photo that way the cosplayer can focus on your camera for the moment, then to the next.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 11:33 AM   #80
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If you want to talk about not having respect for other people's space, last year at FanimeCon when I was doing a photoshoot in a parking-lot garage, I saw that somebody had smashed the rear window of a SUV, with broken-glass everywhere. Whether it was for theft of whatever was inside, or just for the heck of it, THAT was disrespectful.
I remember when I was living in Oakland back then... this sort of things happen A LOT...

Completely not related to cosplay/photography though it's just crime
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Unread 08-10-2010, 06:09 PM   #81
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I've been getting requests for more "action" shots. Problem is, many of the cosplays are literally held together with glue and safety pins, so real "action," is not an option.
Some of the action poses can suffice, but I don't want to disappoint.
Which do you prefer, action poses or actually capturing the action in motion?
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Unread 08-10-2010, 09:12 PM   #82
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In a way, I'm not sure there's really a difference...Though it certainly depends on if the cosplayer is even capable of performing the action- for example, if I was cosplaying as Chun Li, and I wanted a photo of a high-kick-- I've got pretty but flexibility, so there's no way I could pull off a real one ^^; But if the photographer could catch me in a ready to kick or similar pose to make it look like the action, I guess that would be the answer.

when it comes down to it, I would think that the entire point of an action shot is to make it look like the cosplayer is (convincingly) performing the action, whether they really are or not.
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Unread 08-10-2010, 09:31 PM   #83
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You really only run into a rudeness issue on the accounts of personal photoshoots.
So true. At Otakon I saw two of my friends who were being photographed by two guys, one had an DSLR and the other had a video-camera. I took a few pictures of my friends from a short distance, and the guy with the video camera moved to the side. I said "oh, sorry" and he replied "yeah, you should be.. We're doing a photoshoot here."

I was ready to quote Kamina and say "Who the fuck do you think I am?!" but just let it go and continue to take pics of my friends (who I've known longer and taken more pics of them) later on.

This is why I really don't trust or like people who use video-cameras to document cosplayers..
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Unread 08-10-2010, 10:45 PM   #84
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In a way, I'm not sure there's really a difference...Though it certainly depends on if the cosplayer is even capable of performing the action- for example, if I was cosplaying as Chun Li, and I wanted a photo of a high-kick-- I've got pretty but flexibility, so there's no way I could pull off a real one ^^; But if the photographer could catch me in a ready to kick or similar pose to make it look like the action, I guess that would be the answer.

when it comes down to it, I would think that the entire point of an action shot is to make it look like the cosplayer is (convincingly) performing the action, whether they really are or not.
Well, actually, a pose won't give you motion blur, muscle flex, or the flow of clothing, especially if the character wears robes, sashes or capes. Also I find that the facial expression tends to mirror the action that the character is doing. With a pose, especially with those who are inexperienced at posing, would tend to have a dull or disinterested expression. So there are a great many benefits to actual motion. Hence, my question.
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Unread 08-10-2010, 11:34 PM   #85
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Well, imho it depends on the costume. If I'm not quite finished making it and some of it is held together with safety pins and glue I probably shouldn't be running and jumping and kicking in it. But if I can do the action and my clothes can withstand the action I think it looks better to actually do the action. Alternatively I'll pose like I'm about to do the action. Cause you're right, it's kind of impossible to fake action since the motion won't be there.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 01:13 AM   #86
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New question (or two)! When I do photography of a cosplayer, or anyone for that matter, I tend to do more artistic shots rather than just hallway snapshots. At the end of a convention I will look over all the photos I've taken and then clean up and use the ones I like most by placing them on my site. When I do this, I put a watermark on them with my website address in the corner. This is just for my protection since I don't want my hard work to get stolen and shoved up anywhere on flicker without proper credit.

So, question 1: As a cosplayer, are you ok with receiving your photos with a watermark in the corner of the file so long as it's kept non-obtrusive and doesn't detract from the image? Bear in mind that I'm not charging for the photoshoot.

Question 2: I'm going to be getting cards made up to take with me since so many people kept asking where to find their photos from the convention. Should I wait to give a card until it is asked for or offer it up once I snap a few shots? I don't want to go tossing a card in someone's face if they really don't care a lick about seeing what I took.

Question 3: What is the best way you have found so far for a photographer to put you at ease when taking a photo? Examples would be great. I don't usually have TOO many issues with this because I'm a 5'4" female so most people don't really feel threatened but I know I can also come across fairly strong in my personality (military training) and want to make sure I'm not going to scare anyone.

Question 4: What is the worst behavior that you've seen in photographers that you'd like us to avoid?

And finally, Question 5: Is there anything you've maybe seen done by other photographers that you'd like to see more of? What helps make a photoshoot great for you? Anything you wish more photographers did?

Ok, so number 5 is a LOT of questions but I'm done now, I promise. I just want to make sure that when I go to the conventions I have coming up, I can try my hardest to make it a great experience for both myself AND the cosplayers I want to grab pics of.
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Unread 08-11-2010, 02:59 AM   #87
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Well, actually, a pose won't give you motion blur, muscle flex, or the flow of clothing, especially if the character wears robes, sashes or capes. Also I find that the facial expression tends to mirror the action that the character is doing. With a pose, especially with those who are inexperienced at posing, would tend to have a dull or disinterested expression. So there are a great many benefits to actual motion. Hence, my question.
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I agree with tfcreate that static poses will lack the movement of loose clothing, as will hair and wigs that are long or medium. However, muscle flexing or tensing can be done with static poses, which will make it look more realistic as action.

If motion blur is disired, it can accure from making a slight movement when the picture is taken, using a slower shutter speed.

Hair can be brought into motion by simply turning your headm abnd maybe shoulders, quickly enough during the photo. Also, for long hair, you can throw the hair into motion with your hands and quickly strike pose with your hands before the shutter is clicked.

Facial expressions can be too relaxed in static poses, unless a conscious effort is made to apppropriatly tense the facial muscles.

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So, question 1: As a cosplayer, are you ok with receiving your photos with a watermark in the corner of the file so long as it's kept non-obtrusive and doesn't detract from the image? Bear in mind that I'm not charging for the photoshoot.
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Some of my friends have shots with watermarks on them and I think it makes them look really professional and cool. It's more like being an official model to me I've seen a few that are huge and kind of distracting, but usually it's very classy, so I wouldn't mind.

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Question 2: I'm going to be getting cards made up to take with me since so many people kept asking where to find their photos from the convention. Should I wait to give a card until it is asked for or offer it up once I snap a few shots? I don't want to go tossing a card in someone's face if they really don't care a lick about seeing what I took.
You could ask "Would you like a card so you can find the pictures?" I am too shy to ask *blush*

I don't have enough experience with photographers to answer #3 & nothing comes to mind for #4

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And finally, Question 5: Is there anything you've maybe seen done by other photographers that you'd like to see more of? What helps make a photoshoot great for you? Anything you wish more photographers did?
I like it when photographers direct. Even little things like "Turn your head just a little." I want the pictures to look good XD Just help me out a little, I haven't had modelling lessons, you know? Counting down before you take the shot is also helpful so I know exactly how long to hold still, especially if I am standing on one foot or something. Maybe it's not always necessary, but at least if I'm standing on one foot XD
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Unread 08-11-2010, 03:54 AM   #89
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So, question 1: As a cosplayer, are you ok with receiving your photos with a watermark in the corner of the file so long as it's kept non-obtrusive and doesn't detract from the image? Bear in mind that I'm not charging for the photoshoot.
Well... yes and no. I'd want a version with the watermark, and without. I'd post the watermarked version online, and print the non-watermarked one for my portfolio, etc. Or ya know, if the watermark had my name on it too (( ie. photographer name, then my name with it )) then i wouldn't mind it too much... i just really like having a plain version for myself and whatever personal reasons. Even if its never going online.

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Question 2: I'm going to be getting cards made up to take with me since so many people kept asking where to find their photos from the convention. Should I wait to give a card until it is asked for or offer it up once I snap a few shots? I don't want to go tossing a card in someone's face if they really don't care a lick about seeing what I took.
I wouldn't think to ask for a card, due to so many people taking my pictures. Its best to just ask if they want a card or not, and give it to them if they do.

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Question 3: What is the best way you have found so far for a photographer to put you at ease when taking a photo? Examples would be great. I don't usually have TOO many issues with this because I'm a 5'4" female so most people don't really feel threatened but I know I can also come across fairly strong in my personality (military training) and want to make sure I'm not going to scare anyone.
Just act calm and professional. I was nervous at my first photoshoot, but the photographer was calm, polite, and professional... and occasionally joking around, so it really helped me feel less nervous. The fact that we ended up taking a bunch of joke shots really helped too, haha.

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Asking for pictures at inappropriate times. Like, for example (as i said in the cosplay pet peeves forum), i was crying on the phone to my mom, and someone asked me for my picture. My boyfriend had to argue with him to go away... all the while, i'm still crying on the phone. So really, if someone looks occupied... don't ask for a picture.

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Just... having fun with it. One photographer i had was so super uber professional, it really weirded me out. But i had a different guy who was joking around, yet still professional in the way that he helped me pose and such. He'd even set up the camera, look through, then run over to me and place me arms in a little more flattering ways... run back to the camera, check, etc, then take a picture. Then proceed to make jokes about it all, and we'd end up taking a few pictures to end the film roll of me in really stupid, out of character poses (haha). It was just so much fun that way. And i got some really great pictures out of it :3
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So, question 1: As a cosplayer, are you ok with receiving your photos with a watermark in the corner of the file so long as it's kept non-obtrusive and doesn't detract from the image? Bear in mind that I'm not charging for the photoshoot.
I wouldn't care at all. A photographers got to protect his/her work, right?
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Question 2: I'm going to be getting cards made up to take with me since so many people kept asking where to find their photos from the convention. Should I wait to give a card until it is asked for or offer it up once I snap a few shots? I don't want to go tossing a card in someone's face if they really don't care a lick about seeing what I took.
I think you should wait until someone asks for a card or just asks about your photography.
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Question 3: What is the best way you have found so far for a photographer to put you at ease when taking a photo? Examples would be great. I don't usually have TOO many issues with this because I'm a 5'4" female so most people don't really feel threatened but I know I can also come across fairly strong in my personality (military training) and want to make sure I'm not going to scare anyone.
Jokes, jokes, and more jokes. It's always a good way to crack the ice, especially when the jokes are funny XD
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Make things fun. If everyones being too serious, even if it is a more serious photoshoot, nothings going to come out well. Keep their attentions.
...I have never actually been in a cosplay photoshoot, but my mother is a professional photographer, and she likes to use me for practicing >.>
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