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Tollerance to mashups and original takes on characters in cosplay

Does anyone feel that mashups and original takes on characters in cosplay are tolerated differently among series, franchises, and/or fandoms?
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Tolerated differently in what way? Do you mean, "I don't find as many pictures of me online after a con as people who do canon outfits" or that you're facing active discrimination based on a choice you make? Are cons barring you from participating or not allowing you to cosplay this way? Please explain.
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i think it might be more about "percieved intent"

not everyone can handle it when somthing they like is being made fun of or insulted
but for the most part, i think people are able to see the humor or art in it

some mash-ups sound goofy but when you see it executed right
can be kinda neat, like sailormoon/stormtroopers

as for a level of degree tween franchises/fandoms
i think if the source material has a reather serious aire to it
fans might be less enthused about seeing it out of context

but say someones a bobobo super-fan, as goofy as that series is
i dont think theyd have "the right" to be insulted
because the show is overdramatic and constantly poking fun and contridicting itself
and any/everything couldve happened in that show
if you disreguard ESRB, and cultural restrictions
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Does anyone feel that mashups and original takes on characters in cosplay are tolerated differently among series, franchises, and/or fandoms?
I don't get the question.

Definition of "to tolerate" (in this context) from the web dictionary:

1. to allow the existence, presence, practice, or act of without prohibition or hindrance; permit.

2. to endure without repugnance; put up with:
I can tolerate laziness, but not incompetence.


By this definition you are tolerated anywhere, as long as nobody is activily trying to stop you from cosplaying a mash-up character.
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I don't get the question.

Definition of "to tolerate" (in this context) from the web dictionary:

1. to allow the existence, presence, practice, or act of without prohibition or hindrance; permit.

2. to endure without repugnance; put up with:
I can tolerate laziness, but not incompetence.


By this definition you are tolerated anywhere, as long as nobody is activily trying to stop you from cosplaying a mash-up character.
What I am asking is if there are cosplay groups that tollerate mashups and or original takes less then others. Basically if cosplay groups prefer screen accurate cosplays and are elitist about it to those who do their own thing with mashups and original takes.
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What I am asking is if there are cosplay groups that tollerate mashups and or original takes less then others. Basically if cosplay groups prefer screen accurate cosplays and are elitist about it to those who do their own thing with mashups and original takes.
So...more "tolerated" in the sense of accepted, welcome and liked?
Thats pretty hard to generlize. There will be no definied answer for any fandom or larger group and its also kind of difficult to pinpoint what counts as "elitist" behavior, as people might feel different about the same kind of behavior.

I absolutly tolerate people who "do their own thing", because its their time, money and passion and not my business to judge that or give them a hard time.
But at the same time I hope those cosplayers will also understand, that I'm not as much of a fan of their designs or hold the same passion as I do for original characters. Especially when there isn't impressive, big craftmanship involved (which I always adore seeing).
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Rarely I can see it.
Someone people hate mashups because they think "how dare you cross this thing that I like with this thing that I don't like!"
As for OCs, the only time I see people really caring about it is when contests don't allow them.
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I think mash ups can be awesome, and even hilarious at times. I'm currently enjoying looking up Disney Princess Jedis.
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What do you mean by cosplay groups, then?

Like, is this some sort of veiled comment about the 501st not permitting comedy mashups or parodies as official club costumes? Or do you just mean fandoms in general?

If it's about established clubs, groups, chapters, or guilds with existing strict rules on what is permitted to be claimed as an official costume for official purposes? Suck it up. Those types of groups have a price of admission, which is being accurate to the source. And why? In the 501st's case, they essentially serve as the public fan face of a major license property and are allowed to exist solely because they perform charity work as that public face. They have to be strict because they have the eyes of the companies who own Star Wars on them at all times. In the case of some historical guilds, their purpose is educational and to spread awareness of that historical period, so letting anachronisms slide is detrimental to their purpose. And, I will add this: any official group or guild I've ever met does not bring the sledgehammer of strictness down on their members' personal costumes done for fun. ONLY on costumes submitted for official purposes. They're totally cool with letting you do whatever the fuck you want in your personal time, when you're "off the clock" so to speak.

But if you mean, I don't know, unofficial groups of people who just sort of hang out sometime, or fandoms in general? Anyone who does make a stink about mashups and the like is just out of touch with what matters in cosplay. What matters? Enjoying yourself.

But I've never actually seen it in practice. I've never known, in my 17 years of doing this, anyone with a strong and vocal dislike of parody costumes to the point of crusading against them or cold-shouldering them out of the popular-kids' clique. I personally don't do them, but I do enjoy both good concepts and good execution. I don't seek them out, I'm usually not interested to see them, unless the concept and execution both are incredible. I've seen a lot of good ideas really fall flat in the hands of someone who couldn't execute, and I've seen so many concepts DONE TO DEATH that seeing yet another one just makes me wonder if the person is new to cosplay and doesn't realize it's been done to death. Either way, I don't ever tell them they can't do it. They're free to do whatever they want.
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