+

[cachalot]

Originally Posted by OGIGA

Oh, I was really asking, does your actual skin stay tinted after removing the paint? For example, if I painted myself blue/purple/green, would I look like a dead person after removing the paint layer?

Oh! XD no, because PAX is an adhesive, not a true paint, the color peels or scrubs off with the layer of adhesive. There is no tinting of skin because nothing soaks into your skin (unlike some water-based body paints)

[cachalot]

Originally Posted by Lucrezea

That's pretty impressive, I would've assumed it made you feel... well, disgusting for lack of a better word. Thanks!

At first when the paint goes on it's a bit weird. It's kind of cold XD but after it dries it's almost like a second-skin.

The best part was that I could sit down with the paint on and not having to worry about it rubbing off on anything. I sat down as often as I could because my shoes hurt so much, and it was on basically any surface that could support my weight - metal windowsills, brick and concrete, and upholstered chairs, and I didn't stick to any of them.

Thank you so much for answering my questions! I may have to try this stuff for my body paint adventure. The fact that you can touch things and sit and not worry about it all coming off is a big deal.

[sukimba]

So you said it doesn't rub off with water, what about sweat? If you can't sweat it off, do you sweat through it?

[cachalot]

@sukimba: I didn't have any problems with sweating or overheating in it, but keep in mind that I'm always cold and don't really sweat at all (plus we were inside all day in air conditioning). Sweat is mostly water though, so the paint does not rub off with sweat (my husband who was also wearing PAX "tattoos" sweats a lot, and the paint didn't budge). Basically though, the only thing that will make it come off is the PAX adhesive remover.

I don't know if you will have problems with your skin breathing through the paint if you do tend to sweat and/or overheat easily. You may want to test the paint on a large part of your body and wear it around for a couple of hours to see if it's uncomfortable.

[Angeltx441]

what kind of paint did you mix with the pros aide?

oh and is it possible to paint this over latex? Like latex breast cups or something of the sort?
Can you paint it over cloth?
And is it possible to make colors fade into one another like an "airbrushy" feel?

[E. Hyde]

Thanks for this info, looks very good! Can you use normal makeups on top for shading? And how close can you get to your hairline / eyebrows?

[cachalot]

@Angeltx441 - I mixed Liquitex acrylics with the Pros-Aide for the main painting (the light blue), but for the details I used a variety of different things, including other brands of acrylics and metallic powders. All of them stayed really well.

I've never painted this over anything except skin myself, but I do know that PAX is used very commonly as a prosthetics paint, over masks and false noses and scars and things, so I would think it would be okay over latex. It would be best to try it out before the con, if you decide to use it. I don't know about cloth, although since PAX is flexible I would also think it is possible, although powdering over the cloth might be weird.

I don't know how well the colors of different PAX would fade into each other since you have to apply with a brush. You could definitely use an airbrush to apply water-based paint over the PAX. I don't recommend using an airbrush for PAX since the adhesive could gum it up easily. I've seen one or two people who say they've used airbrushes for PAX but I don't know what their techniques are, and most everything else I've read says stay away from it.

[cachalot]

@E. Hyde - all the makeup I used on my face was normal drugstore brand makeup! It shows up and stays really well (since it's powder based, and PAX likes to hang out on your skin with a layer of powder on top.) So play away with makeup

I actually painted a layer of PAX over my hairline so that when my wig inevitably slipped backward, you wouldn't be able to tell. It worked great for photos, but getting the paint off was a real chore. So be prepared to spend a long time in the shower with the remover if you do paint around your hairline since the PAX likes to stick to hair. Eyebrows I didn't have the same problem, as the PAX came right off. I'm guessing that since the hair was shorter, there was no issue.

[Satine]

Originally Posted by verdatum

I could be wrong, but I think I was the first person who started talking about using PAX in any detail on this site, years back.

I've been talking about it since '03 and regularly get shot down for suggesting it- like it is some budget cheapie alternative- yer no. Usually by people outside the industry or people who have never actually used it

(edited to clarify: and I am so very glad there are people here who promote it too )

I like to use PAX or PAX alternatives (using liquiset or certain moisturisers instead of PA) for some projects. My Samara for instance was a mix of mica powders, liquiset and paint to get a thin layer that lasted the entire day. My latex was coloured with the same pigments but bound in an acrylic flow medium. It meant absolute colour matching between me and my appliances.

My Galadriel (from 03) was a mixture of paints and one brand of moisuriser- no other seems to work. That would be Johnson and Johnson clean and clear.

I use PAX to stipple and blend the line of my Asari headpieces but as the cost of PA and cleaner is about twice the price here as it is in the next country I find it extremely expensive to use for much more. I need to save the PA for the gluing of the appliances themselves

[Aleiki]

Oh my goodness, what a wealth of information. Once I've deciphered all of that stuff about paint specifics, this will be very useful. XD

All joking aside, though, this is very cool, and thank you for posting all of that and answering all those questions--most of my questions were answered earlier in the thread, so I'm not going to bother repeating them. This will be super helpful for a cosplay I want to do later, and I'll definitely look into getting some after I've started officially working on it.

I do have one quick question, though, just to clarify: you said you were able to put makeup on as well, but you did put it on over the PAX, right? I figured you probably did, and it doesn't really make sense otherwise, but I didn't know if it was translucent enough that the makeup showed up through it, or... whatever.

[cachalot]

@Aleiki - yes! I did indeed put makeup over the paint - once the PAX is dry you can put pretty much any kind of makeup or even different kinds of PAX over it. If you're going to be in costume for a long time or worried about your makeup smearing because it's hot or whatever, I suggest you use a setting spray (Ben Nye and Mehron and other theatrical makeup companies sell it)

[verdatum]

Originally Posted by Aleiki

Oh my goodness, what a wealth of information. Once I've deciphered all of that stuff about paint specifics, this will be very useful. XD.

(Shameless plug As far as deciphering stuff from chaotic threads, I try to have an explanation of PAX that is detailed as possible at http://fx.wikia.com/wiki/PAX Being a wiki, anyone (n00bs included) is welcome to add to the article or edit it to try and make anything more clear.

[Aleiki]

@cachalot: Awesome, good to know. Thanks again!

@verdatum: Thank you! That should be a great help. I'm sure I'd figure it out eventually, but some of the terminology gets a bit confusing to me XD

[odirex]

Originally Posted by Satine

I like to use PAX or PAX alternatives (using liquiset or certain moisturisers instead of PA) for some projects. My Samara for instance was a mix of mica powders, liquiset and paint to get a thin layer that lasted the entire day. My latex was coloured with the same pigments but bound in an acrylic flow medium. It meant absolute colour matching between me and my appliances.

I'd love a bit more info on that. What kind of paint did you mix with liquiset? Does it turn out sweat-proof / smudgeproof / non-stick?

Also, can PAX be applied with a foam applicator or does it have to be brush?