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Unread 07-29-2014, 11:53 PM   #1
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Katniss Pattern Opinion

Hello! I am hoping to make this dress: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ngjay1.png.jpg

The base is pretty simple, I just don't want to draft an entire pattern if I don't have to.
I found the following patterns, and I'd like some opinions on which would be best or would require the least amount of modification in your opinion! Thanks!

http://www.simplicity.com/p-8868-mis...e-dresses.aspx
http://www.simplicity.com/p-7752-mis...-occasion.aspx
http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m669...hp?page_id=108
http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m589...hp?page_id=108
http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m602...hp?page_id=108
http://butterick.mccall.com/b6021-pr...hp?page_id=155
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Unread 07-30-2014, 01:20 AM   #2
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My opinions:
~Simplicity 1611: Could work, but would be too loose at the top and might not have as wide of a skirt as Katniss's if you don't adjust.

~Simplicity 1778: Could work if you mix and match the bodice pieces, and you might want to adjust the skirt to make it wider. I would pick this one or M6027, personally.

~McCall's M669: Not sure if it'd work, even full-length. I have this pattern, (haven't had the chance to use it yet) and my sewing teacher did not recommend using it at all for a beginner, even she had trouble with it. So if you're a beginner, be careful.

~McCall's M5893: Katniss's dress doesn't have an empire waist, I don't think it'd work well.

~McCall's M6027: Could work pretty well if lengthened. I'd pick this or 1778.

~Butterick B6021: The bottom isn't symmetrical like the original design. Also, it looks like it's made for thinner materials than Katniss's dress. I personally wouldn't use it.
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Unread 07-30-2014, 01:23 AM   #3
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Hmmm...
-Pattern #1: This pattern isn't for a fitted bodice, so you'll have to add shaping somehow. That's probably trickier than it needs to be.
-Pattern #2: Getting rid of those pleats down the front could be tricky. Not bad, but I think pattern #5 may be less work.
-Pattern #3: You'll have to redraft the pattern so it doesn't have a belt. Again, more work than it needs to be.
-Pattern #4: Same as pattern #1
-Pattern #5: This one has distinct possibilities. You'll have to reshape the neckline and straps a little bit, but it would be quite doable.
-Pattern #6: Same as patterns #1 and #4

I like pattern #5 best. The skirt is attached to the bodice, so that already saves you a lot of work. You'll just have to lengthen it. The fitted bodice is also closest to the original Mockingjay dress. Just leave some extra fabric around the neck and strap area so you can shape them the way you want!

One thing I'm noticing about the Mockingjay dress is that I can't spot any obvious seams. Unfortunately I also can't find any close-up or costume exhibition photos that convince me one way or the other. I'd be curious to know which parts of the dress were real and which were CG x3
That said, you could try removing the center front seam, and perhaps also the center back seam, by cutting those pattern pieces on the fold.

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Unread 07-30-2014, 03:16 AM   #4
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Thank you both for your help! I enjoy bastardizing patterns to make things work, and a lot of times I see things and say, "Hey, that could work if I do A,B, and C!" And then I look at it and go, "What the hell was I thinking?!" So, yes, I really appreciate your thoughts.

And AlbinoShadow, I was wondering the same thing. The physics of film costuming makes things difficult for us cosplayers!
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Unread 07-30-2014, 08:05 AM   #5
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I think the dress is built in two layers, an underneath pieced body (much like the McC 6027) and an outer layer of very light silk, cut on the bias (to allow seamless appearance) an batiked to create that stunning pattern.
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Unread 07-30-2014, 07:36 PM   #6
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I was thinking of using a light silk. Penlowe, have you have batiked before? I've been wanting to, and thought I'd ask if you had any advice!
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Unread 07-31-2014, 08:35 AM   #7
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Yes, I have batiked, but something that elaborate takes a lot of practice. It's a bit like tie dye, but much more involved.

to get patterns along those lines, the fabric is carefully folded, then the dye placed at points on the fold. Sorta like making paper snowflakes when you were a kid, but messier. only a light silk fabric could be folded enough times to create that kind of sunburst effect.
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I've batiked about 10 time large panels and two kites during my years High school. The easiest way is to start from your lightest shade up to the deepest to layer the colours. Katniss Dress is monotone for the most part but I could get up to 10 shades from yellow to orange to brown and pale blue to aqua to deep teal. Also White is your first colour.

I use a bee's wax and paraffin wax as a resist but you can buy silk resists which are lot more gentler. It basically masking out each shade as you dye from lightest to darkest.

An example of a 3 shade one (plus white).
http://www.overstock.com/Worldstock-...se archidx=30


Another option is to print the pattern onto fabric but you would have to know the Exact dimensions of the front panel.
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Thank you guys for your advice and help! This is a project for a con at a much later date, and I really want to learn new techniques. I'll definitely play with the batiking and practice on something other than the final piece. I really appreciate your help.
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Good luck to you that a big task but def worth the time! Wife ans I had fun with ours! Take your time and it will come out great!

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