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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:09 PM   #83881
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Don't play devil's advocate concerning feminism. Better yet, just don't say anything at all.
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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:25 PM   #83882
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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:33 PM   #83883
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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:34 PM   #83884
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Jesus Christ, most MRAs just grind my gears. Like others have said, they do have a few legitimate points, but on the whole it's mostly guys complaining about women not wanting to fuck them.
Like it was said before, when they do bring up legitimate points it's always stuff feminists agree with and yet they still see them as an enemy. But then when feminists talk about instances like the UCSB shooting or the guy who killed the girl who turned down his invitation for prom they start talking about a violent crime committed by a woman try to make an equivalence. However, I have yet to see them find a case with the same social problems behind them. The stories are simply not comparable. The UCSB shooting is not comparable to three women attacking a homeless man. The only thing these stories have in common is that is was a terrible act.
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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:43 PM   #83885
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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:43 PM   #83886
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My gut reaction when I first read about this was that it is bogus. Some other people have actually looked at the data and have come to that conclusion as well.
Yep, first thing I thought was "hurricanes were ALL female-named until 1979, and before that, hurricane forecasting and preparedness was WAY less than it is now". Just from a historical standpoint, that's unfairly weighted.
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Unread 06-10-2014, 09:53 PM   #83887
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Anyone care to tell me how you'd shoot someone while you're asleep?
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Unread 06-10-2014, 10:05 PM   #83888
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For the most part, I only bite my tongue at people I don't take seriously. I only really make an ass of myself maybe once every two or three years. ;>.>

There's this one scene in Bowling for Columbine where Michael Moore goes into someone's bedroom without the cameraman and is shown by the owner of the house a loaded gun beneath his pillow. My money's on him for accidentally shooting people in his sleep.
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Unread 06-10-2014, 10:18 PM   #83889
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Like it was said before, when they do bring up legitimate points it's always stuff feminists agree with and yet they still see them as an enemy. But then when feminists talk about instances like the UCSB shooting or the guy who killed the girl who turned down his invitation for prom they start talking about a violent crime committed by a woman try to make an equivalence. However, I have yet to see them find a case with the same social problems behind them. The stories are simply not comparable. The UCSB shooting is not comparable to three women attacking a homeless man. The only thing these stories have in common is that is was a terrible act.
That's just it, any legitimate points they may have are usually things that feminists are fighting for as well, like equality in child custody battles, etc., and there is absolutely no reason for men to have an entirely separate group for this just because they're afraid to label themselves feminists because they're afraid it will make them seem less macho. Their egos get in the way of them making any real progress, and the name "men's rights activist" is just absurd, considering white men are the only ones who have been GIVEN inherent rights since essentially the dawn of time.

Who deals with harassment, threats of rape/murder, unequal pay, unequal treatment, and just downright inequality on a daily basis? Women. Who REALLY needs a movement devoted to their welfare and equality? Women.

To clarify, I'm not disagreeing with you at all Shana, but rather further expressing my opinion.

Edit: regarding the UCSB shooter, he literally shot and killed multiple people because women didn't throw themselves at him. You'll find news articles that say things like "he was rejected by women..." But that's inaccurate. In order to be rejected you first have to make an attempt. In his manifesto you'll find that he never actually went up and TALKED to any girls. He just hated them for being out and about with their boyfriends because they chose that guy over the shooter. He fully expected women to just come up to him and flirt with him and want to be with him without him having to try, and because no one did, he shot and killed people. If that doesn't show the world that we need feminism I just don't know what will.
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Unread 06-10-2014, 10:18 PM   #83890
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Anybody who thinks they make an ass out of themselves only once every two to three years is not very self aware, IMO.

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Unread 06-10-2014, 10:25 PM   #83891
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Unread 06-10-2014, 10:27 PM   #83892
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There's making an ass of yourself, and really making an ass of yourself. The indefensible, irreducible kind, where shame is the only recourse. The kind that, years down the line, you're still going "why the hell did I do/say that?" every time you think about it. That's what I'm talking about.

I don't get the whole MRA thing. I always just identified as a feminist. o_o

Edit: I just did a google search for "can a man" out of curiosity, and the very first suggestion was "be a feminist." I'm not sure what that suggests, but I do find it interesting.
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I actually agree with everything you're saying Clementine. You've hit the nail on the head. The whole story has also been a hit for me as an Aspie. It was falsely reported the Rodger had Asperger's. It turns out he was never diagnosed even though he had been seeing a therapist for years. His family just suspected he might be on the autism spectrum because he had no friends. Seriously, there's a lot of reasons a person can be friendless that don't involve autism.

But of course, most people just remember the first thing they heard. Just what autistic people need, others associating the condition with violence.
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Unread 06-11-2014, 05:24 AM   #83894
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Don't play devil's advocate concerning feminism. Better yet, just don't say anything at all.
pfft, try playing the middle ground, oh wait, that's not possible because YOU DISAGREED WITH ME SO YOU'RE THE ENEMY.
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Unread 06-11-2014, 05:59 AM   #83895
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Edit: I just did a google search for "can a man" out of curiosity, and the very first suggestion was "be a feminist." I'm not sure what that suggests, but I do find it interesting.
Interesting. Check the Google completions for "feminists are" and "feminists should".

Also - Lewis's Law.
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