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Unread 10-02-2014, 10:48 PM   #1
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Ruffles of some kind

Hello again everyone, I need a little help..
Here's the outfit:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...psbfd8f1ed.jpg
It's a version of Kyoko Sakura from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magika..

It's the skirts mostly. There are 2 (as you can see) that are both the same style..which I have no idea what that style is even called..Does anyone have any tutorials, or can at least give me a name so I can look some tutorials up myself? Cuz I'd love to search, myself, but I can't without a name..

The onther main one is the umbrella/parasol thing..I have never made one..Would a circle skirt pattern be best since this one doesn't need to close? And then painting on the stripes?

Also if anyone knows where I cn buy a vest like hers that's be awesome..It seems to be similar to a normal suit vest, but longer and has lapels and a collar..I've never seen that before, so if it doesn't exist I can just make one, but if I can buy one that'd be better.

Thanks for any help.
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I've never seen one in such a ruffly shape, but try "High-low/hi-lo/hi-low" (different spelling methods I've seen) skirt. If you're making one with your own pattern, yu would basically need the pattern for a plain one, and add extra yardage to make the soft ruffles- I'm thinking for that, doing what would basically be an unironed knife-pleat (so it wouldn't hang straight down or be crazy-ruffled, but it won't have the sharp fold a pleat would), maybe with a little shirring. You'd also have the change the very front a bit from a normal skirt, it looks like it TECHNICALLY doesn't actually close- you'd have to turn that into ruffles sewn into a waistband, with no front seamsewn, if you want to be totally accurate. In that case it's possible but a little tedious as you have to match things up very well.

Edit- Also, I recommend some horsehair braid on the hem. There's a lot of gentle ruffly lines that don't look like they COULD keep their shape through sewing alone (as in, it doesn't look like they pleat enough into the skirt to keep such a well-rounded shape by themselves).
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I don't think it's gathered or pleated at all, it's a circular technique like is used in Flamenco dresses/ skirts. These are mediocre pictures, but the steps are the same.

http://swissseamstress.blogspot.com/...e-ruffles.html
Obviously, you will be cutting much larger circles and then altering the hem length. Clearly a mock up needs to be done, but as it is symmetrical, you can do just one side of the body with seams planned front & back center. Horsehair braid on the hem will help a lot too.

Umbrella: just buy an umbrella and cover it, you do not want to try building ribs from scratch. I'd use a striped fabric.

Vest, eh, buying will probably be pricey, I'd make it, they aren't too hard, even with collars.
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Here's so ideas for your vest:

1. http://kwiksew.mccall.com/k3183-prod...p?page_id=3370

Of course you would have to tweek it in order to get what you need.

2. http://kwiksew.mccall.com/k3662-prod...p?page_id=3344

3. http://kwiksew.mccall.com/k2860-prod...p?page_id=3344

The last 2 are probably more of what you're going for. Anyway, yeah Penlowe's right. You're talking about few pretty pennies just to buy 1 vest. If you were to buy it, the only 2 places I can think of is Jos. A Bank and Men's Warehouse.

I hope this helps and good luck
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I've never seen one in such a ruffly shape, but try "High-low/hi-lo/hi-low" (different spelling methods I've seen) skirt. If you're making one with your own pattern, yu would basically need the pattern for a plain one, and add extra yardage to make the soft ruffles- I'm thinking for that, doing what would basically be an unironed knife-pleat (so it wouldn't hang straight down or be crazy-ruffled, but it won't have the sharp fold a pleat would), maybe with a little shirring. You'd also have the change the very front a bit from a normal skirt, it looks like it TECHNICALLY doesn't actually close- you'd have to turn that into ruffles sewn into a waistband, with no front seamsewn, if you want to be totally accurate. In that case it's possible but a little tedious as you have to match things up very well.

Edit- Also, I recommend some horsehair braid on the hem. There's a lot of gentle ruffly lines that don't look like they COULD keep their shape through sewing alone (as in, it doesn't look like they pleat enough into the skirt to keep such a well-rounded shape by themselves).
I tried looking those up and am not finding anything that helps me with the ruffled look. It's all just a straight down skirt with a lower back and higher front..so....Idk lol

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I don't think it's gathered or pleated at all, it's a circular technique like is used in Flamenco dresses/ skirts. These are mediocre pictures, but the steps are the same.

http://swissseamstress.blogspot.com/...e-ruffles.html
Obviously, you will be cutting much larger circles and then altering the hem length. Clearly a mock up needs to be done, but as it is symmetrical, you can do just one side of the body with seams planned front & back center. Horsehair braid on the hem will help a lot too.

Umbrella: just buy an umbrella and cover it, you do not want to try building ribs from scratch. I'd use a striped fabric.

Vest, eh, buying will probably be pricey, I'd make it, they aren't too hard, even with collars.
So that looks closer at least. You gave me a link to one for having ruffles ADDED to the skirt, this is not like that at all, how would that work? I can't see how I'd translate that into one piece rather than 2 like theirs..Obviously from the picture it's not a circle skirt with ruffles added to the bottom at ALL, so idk..

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Here's so ideas for your vest:

1. http://kwiksew.mccall.com/k3183-prod...p?page_id=3370

Of course you would have to tweek it in order to get what you need.

2. http://kwiksew.mccall.com/k3662-prod...p?page_id=3344

3. http://kwiksew.mccall.com/k2860-prod...p?page_id=3344

The last 2 are probably more of what you're going for. Anyway, yeah Penlowe's right. You're talking about few pretty pennies just to buy 1 vest. If you were to buy it, the only 2 places I can think of is Jos. A Bank and Men's Warehouse.

I hope this helps and good luck
Well I'm surely not getting a vest made for a a female costume at a men's suit store, that's for sure..Even buying it, I would need one that fits a female size, not a males..This is a female character, a men's vest would fit a man's measurements..They wouldn't have any room for breasts to go on a men's vest. But also, I already said I pretty much know how to make it, I just didn't want to.
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You gave me a link to one for having ruffles ADDED to the skirt, this is not like that at all, how would that work? I can't see how I'd translate that into one piece rather than 2 like theirs..Obviously from the picture it's not a circle skirt with ruffles added to the bottom at ALL, so idk..
I wasn't trying to be obtuse, i was showing technique. To create the skirt you want you will use multiple circles, just like the ruffle, not like an ordinary single circle, circle skirt. Same process just a lot bigger and attached to a waistband instead of a skirt.

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I pretty much know how to make it, I just didn't want to.
You sound really frustrated, I get it. I suspect you are at a phase in your learning where you understand what goes into more complex patterns, but aren't happy with your results because you know how good it could be. The good news is you are at the top of the roller coaster, from this point on your understanding will deepen and those processes that are holding you back right now are going to get easier and easier. Congratulations! You are on the verge of becoming a fantastic sewist! Just keep plodding away at it, soon you will find yourself running.
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