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Unread 08-13-2012, 08:26 PM   #3481
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And I haven't met anyone who was vegan who WASN'T militant and obnoxious about it.
That's because those who aren't don't mouth off about it as much as they can, thus they go unnoticed in comparison to the unbearably obnoxious. :/

It's a little similar to lots of other things... like religion, politics, sexual orientation, social justice... <insert other touchy subject here>
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Unread 08-13-2012, 08:35 PM   #3482
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Me too. And I haven't met anyone who was vegan who WASN'T militant and obnoxious about it. Regular vegetarians, not vegans, has been all over the board between "I don't give a flying crap what everyone ELSE eats, just what I eat" to "Gross, how can you eat your murdered animals" if someone as much as MENTIONS meat...:P
Shinobi... this dude was cray cray

Kildread- I know... I just feel so bad getting negative about vegans and vegatarians but it's so hard every time I encounter someone and they prove me wrong on the belief that there must be not militant vegan/vegetarians.
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Unread 08-13-2012, 08:39 PM   #3483
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Me too. And I haven't met anyone who was vegan who WASN'T militant and obnoxious about it.
You've met me.

I'm belligerent, and obnoxious, but thats because I'm an asshole. I dont push my dietary beliefs on anyone apart from occasionally expressing them; I think.
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Unread 08-13-2012, 08:44 PM   #3484
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You've met me.

I'm belligerent, and obnoxious, but thats because I'm an asshole. I dont push my dietary beliefs on anyone apart from occasionally expressing them; I think.
Then that makes you ok in my book. I just dislike people trying to sit there and try and make me feel bad over bacon. I do have a good friend who is vegetarian and she never once tried to shove her beliefs down my throat and I appreciate that about her. To me it's a respect thing ya know? Everything led back to veganism with this guy.... we started off talking about the Batman movie.
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Unread 08-13-2012, 08:46 PM   #3485
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Then that makes you ok in my book. I just dislike people trying to sit there and try and make me feel bad over bacon. I do have a good friend who is vegetarian and she never once tried to shove her beliefs down my throat and I appreciate that about her. To me it's a respect thing ya know? Everything led back to veganism with this guy.... we started off talking about the Batman movie.
I've learned that at the end of the day, nobody really cares what anyone else thinks, so why jeopardize your friendship with them, by bombarding them with ideas that are on another planet by their standards, you know?
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Unread 08-13-2012, 08:47 PM   #3486
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nobody really cares what anyone else thinks
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Unread 08-13-2012, 09:03 PM   #3487
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I may not agree with what you (not directed at you individually, just 'you' as a catch all term) think, but I can understand why you think it.

Personally I find arguments over who's eating beer battered meat jerky and who's eating free range rainbow-kissed lettuce a pretty petty argument. I think people tend to take stating their views as having to convert someone to them, instead of saying "Oh I am a vegan/meat eater/christian/atheist/pooper/nonpooper and this is why" people tend to say "Oh I am this, and you ought to be to because anyone different from me is wrong and scary and makes me feel bad"
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Unread 08-13-2012, 09:16 PM   #3488
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I've learned that at the end of the day, nobody really cares what anyone else thinks, so why jeopardize your friendship with them, by bombarding them with ideas that are on another planet by their standards, you know?
I had to unfriend him because he was being such a huge twat about it... you're absolutely right, it's not worth jeopardizing friendships over... apparently he didn't care about my friendship with him... just trying to make me a vegan or something (not really sure what his motive was) it was unfortunate because he wasn't a bad person... just a jerk about his view and acted so high and mighty about it =(
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Unread 08-14-2012, 01:05 AM   #3489
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Unread 08-14-2012, 06:59 AM   #3490
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You've met me.

I'm belligerent, and obnoxious, but thats because I'm an asshole. I dont push my dietary beliefs on anyone apart from occasionally expressing them; I think.
I'm vegan too, and I never tell anyone what to eat. My bf eats everything and I don't care. Don't judge me and I won't judge you is my theory
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Unread 08-14-2012, 01:36 PM   #3491
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Note to self: Do not word shit "I am going to give you my change so you can turn it in to your bank for me" when it should be worded "I do not want to pay a fee, I'll give you a precentage if you can cash it in for me". Now I had a huge blow up over change I spent over 5 years building up.

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just never mind I'll just let coinstar make big $$ next time and not think of a friend making a little cash.

Tsch despite thsi tift I offered her 50% of it despite the dispute.
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Unread 08-14-2012, 03:39 PM   #3492
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Ugh Im having the hardest time get the money to pay off a commission..The commissioner has already done stuff for my cosplay..so it would be so rude to just say..Im sorry..i know you spent alot on me and I havent given you a thing but i dont want the cosplay no more..
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Unread 08-14-2012, 03:43 PM   #3493
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Ugh Im having the hardest time get the money to pay off a commission..The commissioner has already done stuff for my cosplay..so it would be so rude to just say..Im sorry..i know you spent alot on me and I havent given you a thing but i dont want the cosplay no more..
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Unread 08-14-2012, 04:16 PM   #3494
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Ugh Im having the hardest time get the money to pay off a commission..The commissioner has already done stuff for my cosplay..so it would be so rude to just say..Im sorry..i know you spent alot on me and I havent given you a thing but i dont want the cosplay no more..
Honestly doing that is a sure way to make a commissioner never work with you :\ I know that finding money to pay for your 'extra' stuff (IE: Not important bills) can be difficult but commissioners suffer on the people who have buyers remorse and realize they cannot really afford what they've gone ahead and purchased through them.

I've worked with someone who kept me hanging on payment for MONTHS on end and because of it I know that I will never work with them again. I was willing to hold onto the stuff because they kept stating they would have the money soon but I finally had enough and couldn't trust their word any more.

As a commissioner yourself I am sure you'd rather have your customers be upfront and honest, correct? Then you should be with this person as well. If they've already done work on your behalf I really don't want to sound like a bad guy but you do owe them for what they've done for you. At the end of the day the commissioner shouldn't have to suffer for your mistakes, and I think you owe them partial payment to at least cover the cost of the supplies.

If you talk with the commissioner you may be able to work out something with them, even if it does mean a partial payment, but it will be better for you both if you just come up to them honestly and apologize.
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Unread 08-14-2012, 05:36 PM   #3495
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Are you going to ask for a refund or just cancel it as it is?
I haven't paid anything for it. They started it without any upfront costs. I had the money before but she said she had 2 cons to attend plus two other commissions before me..so I waited then bills came up and I spent it on paying them. Now she is like in the works of my outfit and I got nothing

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Honestly doing that is a sure way to make a commissioner never work with you :\ I know that finding money to pay for your 'extra' stuff (IE: Not important bills) can be difficult but commissioners suffer on the people who have buyers remorse and realize they cannot really afford what they've gone ahead and purchased through them.

I've worked with someone who kept me hanging on payment for MONTHS on end and because of it I know that I will never work with them again. I was willing to hold onto the stuff because they kept stating they would have the money soon but I finally had enough and couldn't trust their word any more.

As a commissioner yourself I am sure you'd rather have your customers be upfront and honest, correct? Then you should be with this person as well. If they've already done work on your behalf I really don't want to sound like a bad guy but you do owe them for what they've done for you. At the end of the day the commissioner shouldn't have to suffer for your mistakes, and I think you owe them partial payment to at least cover the cost of the supplies.

If you talk with the commissioner you may be able to work out something with them, even if it does mean a partial payment, but it will be better for you both if you just come up to them honestly and apologize.
your right I will try to talk to her about some arrangement thanks
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