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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:07 PM   #3631
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Then you lost me with the statement that women are lesser able then men in combat.
As someone who used to be a martial artist, I certainly couldn't disagree more myself. Yeah, there's some physical differences that are always going to be there, like height/size/weight class, but in no way does that mean a woman can't be as competent a fighter, or *gasp* more competent, as a man. Same goes for aggression. It might not be the accepted "norm", but I've dealt with a lot of aggressive, fight-picking, standoffish women/girls and just as many guys who wanted nothing to do with being viewed as aggressive and tough.

@TheHag- I wasn't referring to assertion/agression, I was giving an example on what my parents DIDN'T expect me to be like. I actually had a lot of problems with being assertive when younger due to having Asperger's Syndrome and a lot of bullying at school.
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:20 PM   #3632
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Male, female, it doesn't matter - if you are interested in someone, let them know (be direct, use your words), not because of what societal norms are, but because you alone are responsible for how you live your life. You won't get anything you want by just sitting back and waiting for it to happen, then complaining about how it's not fair that "the world" doesn't work in your favour. It's not about "being a man". Be an interesting person. Learn how to talk to people by talking to people.

To back up what a lot of the other ladies in this thread have already said, I myself have little problem initiating a relationship, and not because I'm particularly agressive or forward (I'm not), but because I don't want to regret having missed a good opportunity.
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:20 PM   #3633
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i'm just upset, frustrated because I got lead on by 2 girls in the past week, so it's not that they rejected me, it's how they did it, i hate it when girls make me think i have a chance with them and then deny my further advances
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:25 PM   #3634
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i'm just upset, frustrated because I got lead on by 2 girls in the past week, so it's not that they rejected me, it's how they did it, i hate it when girls make me think i have a chance with them and then deny my further advances
I can't say for sure, but maybe they didn't lead you on? Maybe they just wanted to be friends? ._. I hug my guy friends and talk to them a lot, but that doesn't mean I want anything more.
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:27 PM   #3635
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I can't say for sure, but maybe they didn't lead you on? Maybe they just wanted to be friends? ._. I hug my guy friends and talk to them a lot, but that doesn't mean I want anything more.
these were 2 girls i was talking to on Plentyoffish, both them said they would love to meet up, hang out, go out, but it never happend
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:28 PM   #3636
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Now what do you mean it never happened? Do you mean that you where active in agreeing to this and tried to arrange a meet up but they never responded?
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:31 PM   #3637
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Now what do you mean it never happened? Do you mean that you where active in agreeing to this and tried to arrange a meet up but they never responded?

yes i agree with them too to meet up, but then they never responded further after that
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:33 PM   #3638
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Only based on exactly what you've written here, PopCulture, saying they would like to meet up and then it not happening within a week is not them leading you on, it's them being friendly, and you being impatient.
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:34 PM   #3639
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Only based on exactly what you've written here, PopCulture, saying they would like to meet up and then it not happening within a week is not them leading you on, it's them being friendly, and you being impatient.
and being impatient is a thousand, million, billion times worse for guys than it is for girls
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:38 PM   #3640
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and being impatient is a thousand, million, billion times worse for guys than it is for girls

...really? We're going back to this kind of talk again?
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and being impatient is a thousand, million, billion times worse for guys than it is for girls
No. It's. NOT.

You keep making huge generalizations that women are so drastically different from men when it's really just you and your one man band pity party.
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:43 PM   #3642
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No. It's. NOT.

You keep making huge generalizations that women are so drastically different from men when it's really just you and your one man band pity party.
Well I just have to get this anger and frustration out of me
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:49 PM   #3643
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Girls you just don't understand how HARD IT IS BEING A MAN!

Men have to make the first move, be more agressive. Its ok for a girl to be shy but not for men.

Why does society hate men more than women? Why does no one want to go out with me?

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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:52 PM   #3644
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Girls you just don't understand how HARD IT IS BEING A MAN!

Men have to make the first move, be more agressive. Its ok for a girl to be shy but not for men.

Why does society hate men more than women? Why does no one want to go out with me?

yes, and everything is almost always a man's fault
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Unread 08-20-2012, 02:54 PM   #3645
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yes i agree with them too to meet up, but then they never responded further after that
I can't speak for your situation directly past what you've shared --- unless you were both in a discussion where you planned this out or spoke about dates, it was a "maybe" --- and "meeting up" is not a date. If it was over the internet with a girl you never physically met, chances are that was simply a passing thought of hers --- at bet, she might have considered meeting up with you at an event you were both attending.

In my experience, "maybe" = "no" (Well, it's never turned out as a "yes" much to my dismay), I can't qualify it as anything other than an evasive answer. Although for you it's going to register as a "yes" (I know the feeling intimately), because it's what you want. But then again, my last two recent "attempts" also ended up giving me the roundabout and we were discussing dates, in both cases I ended up having to pressure them several weeks (In one case, a month and a half is what it took, but that was the long distance girl) later where communication had died down or they were suddenly unreachable to finally discover they had went for someone else and didn't actually think I needed to be informed.

It's unbelievably crushing, but it's sadly a fact of life that, as a guy, we will be given the "apparently harmless" roundabout more often than a straight "no". It doesn't mean all girls are like that, even if it feels that way once it happens repeatedly.

So, apart from everyone telling you to avoid sweeping generalizations on a public forum, I don't have any advice for you --- everything that's written on the internet about this is bullshit (My post included), because all situations are different. All you can do is be direct about it and hope the other party has the presence of mind not to be a jackass with your emotions.

EDIT: *Sigh* While I was typing this you went ahead and did another generalization. Waiting's just as bad for women than it is for men --- they're just as badly waiting for a positive answer than you are, will be just as crushed when it doesn't turn out to be.

But it's easy to tell yourself that girls have it easier, there are hundreds of men looking to hit on them usually --- they've certainly got the selection! Doesn't mean they're interested.

Also, I think fullbleed is mocking you

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