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Unread 03-15-2016, 04:32 AM   #1
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Chain mail/ Breast plate for Throin Oakenshield.

Chainmail, Thorin Oakenshield stylee!!

Hi everyone
Right, I'm taking my Younger brother to his first con (London) in may, and he's pretty excited.

He's mentioned that he might want to be Thorin Oakenshield, because he's as much of a Hobbit dork as I am. And he thinks it would be cool as I am Kili.

But, he wants me to help him make it, and I have no idea how to do his chainmail-y undershirt thingy. Its not even chainmail. It's more breastplate or something We have the fur gilet (Ironically, they're fashionable now) and I can source/ make the blue bit. And I have the embroidery pieces. It's just the Silver undershirt thing thats the difficulty. Has anyone got any ideas?


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Aidan

Ps here's the breastplate thing I need to make- http://31.media.tumblr.com/48b12f10f...8Wm1r9np07.png
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Unread 03-15-2016, 08:21 AM   #2
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Yeah it's not chain mail. If you do ever need to make that, ask as I primarily make it for jewellery purposes but many of the patterns I use are actual armour patterns and some that are more decorative. I forget the name but that basic type of armour is found through history. I'll leave technical pros and cons out of it. *forgot to say* The tiles are attached to a shirt, usually something that was hard wearing like leather but you could use a pullover shirt for ease of wear, economy and comfort. It also allows the tiles to be sewn on which is how they were usually attached.

Easiest way is to make the tiles, craft foam, worbla, even cardboard if you are on a tight budget. I would punch a hole at the top and bottom to attach them to the shirt with thread that would blend with the colour, or hot glue if in a hurry in which case leave out the holes. The embossing could come from 3D fabric paint (comes in a squeezy bottle) or another layer of foam or whatever you use. You would need to prime with watered down PVC or for worbla the other priming methods for that material. Paint could be by spray paint or I have seen this tutorial which gets a nice patinated finish to the metal. http://entropyhouse.com/penwiper/cos...helmsdeep.html

I'd write more but on my lunch hour!

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Unread 03-15-2016, 08:39 AM   #3
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Yeah it's not chain mail. If you do ever need to make that, ask as I primarily make it for jewellery purposes but many of the patterns I use are actual armour patterns and some that are more decorative. I forget the name but that basic type of armour is found through history. I'll leave technical pros and cons out of it. *forgot to say* The tiles are attached to a shirt, usually something that was hard wearing like leather but you could use a pullover shirt for ease of wear, economy and comfort. It also allows the tiles to be sewn on which is how they were usually attached.

Easiest way is to make the tiles, craft foam, worbla, even cardboard if you are on a tight budget. I would punch a hole at the top and bottom to attach them to the shirt with thread that would blend with the colour, or hot glue if in a hurry in which case leave out the holes. The embossing could come from 3D fabric paint (comes in a squeezy bottle) or another layer of foam or whatever you use. You would need to prime with watered down PVC or for worbla the other priming methods for that material. Paint could be by spray paint or I have seen this tutorial which gets a nice patinated finish to the metal. http://entropyhouse.com/penwiper/cos...helmsdeep.html

I'd write more but on my lunch hour!
Aha! Thank you very much! Was going to ask whether I could use craft foam because ive got tonnes knocking about, so that's good! Doesn't sound too difficult for me to do, either. Now I just have to wait for him to finally decide what he wants to do.
So I could just dew the tiles onto a t-shit for him? That sounds ideal. Will it be too hard-wearing for him, or could it be worn easily, I'm not sure how he fairs with crowds and stiff costumes (he's only 16). Basically, will he be reasonable comfortable?


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Unread 03-15-2016, 08:41 AM   #4
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This really belongs in the "general cosplay [crafting]" section but I'll add to the answers.

I agree with the cardboard & paint technique, but I suggest chip board over corrugated (the solid kind like on the back of a pad of drawing paper vs. the type shipping boxes are made from). Tin snips work better than craft scissors for small detail cuts on this kind of material. Big cuts need to be made with a straight edge and good sharp utility knife. You can draw out the shapes in a teselation then cut. Kinda sorta like this, but long tall shapes. http://www.testmobileview.com/best-3...ing-page-free/

sewing will work, but brads should hold just as well and be way faster. plus they will look more like the rivets used in the original costume. the only drawback to this is the underneath shirt you use needs to not be a stretchy tee and you'll want an undershirt to prevent the brads from irritating your skin. Don't know how available this is in the UK but it's a godsend when it comes to punching holes in thick materials: http://www.joann.com/crop-a-dile-ii-big-bite-punch/9732801.html?mkwid=nRgpLb8N|dc&utm_source=google&u tm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Shopping+-+Scrapbooking&CS_003=12309626&CS_010=[ProductId]&gclid=Cj0KEQjw5Z63BRCLqqLtpc6dk7gBEiQA0OuhsFlHzFE 5vJDPFw_nsY4wBM1fU29I_kS7fcIoV7lpX6oaAl7W8P8HAQ
brads, available in lots of colors and sizes; http://www.shoplet.com/Gem-Office-Pr...ftwaAoVS8P8HAQ

OH and another thing: hot glue is not for flexible surfaces. if you hot glue your shapes onto a garment, they WILL peel off with movement eventually.
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Unread 03-15-2016, 08:52 AM   #5
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This really belongs in the "general cosplay [crafting]" section but I'll add to the answers.

I agree with the cardboard & paint technique, but I suggest chip board over corrugated (the solid kind like on the back of a pad of drawing paper vs. the type shipping boxes are made from). Tin snips work better than craft scissors for small detail cuts on this kind of material. Big cuts need to be made with a straight edge and good sharp utility knife. You can draw out the shapes in a teselation then cut. Kinda sorta like this, but long tall shapes. http://www.testmobileview.com/best-3...ing-page-free/

sewing will work, but brads should hold just as well and be way faster. plus they will look more like the rivets used in the original costume. the only drawback to this is the underneath shirt you use needs to not be a stretchy tee and you'll want an undershirt to prevent the brads from irritating your skin. Don't know how available this is in the UK but it's a godsend when it comes to punching holes in thick materials: http://www.joann.com/crop-a-dile-ii-big-bite-punch/9732801.html?mkwid=nRgpLb8N|dc&utm_source=google&u tm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Shopping+-+Scrapbooking&CS_003=12309626&CS_010=[ProductId]&gclid=Cj0KEQjw5Z63BRCLqqLtpc6dk7gBEiQA0OuhsFlHzFE 5vJDPFw_nsY4wBM1fU29I_kS7fcIoV7lpX6oaAl7W8P8HAQ
brads, available in lots of colors and sizes; http://www.shoplet.com/Gem-Office-Pr...ftwaAoVS8P8HAQ

OH and another thing: hot glue is not for flexible surfaces. if you hot glue your shapes onto a garment, they WILL peel off with movement eventually.

Will take a look at these, THANKS. Will do some research on UK availability.
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