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Unread 07-31-2012, 02:51 AM   #1
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Requiring assistance.

So I am about to get serious about putting together a medieval outfit, and from my name, you can guess my style is more of a stealthy outlook on the whole thing. Green undergarments with dark brown to black leather pieces...

I'm skipping to the point much too quickly. I'm still not sure exactly what this site specializes in, and due to the original settings and layout, I'm not sure what to expect. It doesn't seem to be the medieval crowd in here, but my chances aren't going to be hurt by trying to see how you folks are.

So now that you know what I expect to make/build, and my uncertainty of this website, I'll add a third factor in any possible responses you might have for me. Any good (meaning quality, yet relatively inexpensive) sites selling leather pieces are welcome. My best friend once showed me a site a long time ago with great assortments of pieces, and many of them. But I cannot find that website, or any others like it. Basic leather chestpieces, gaunlets, bracers, and shoulderpieces are all in the question. Possibly greaves, and most likely boots.

I hope that provides enough details about my situation and what I'm looking for, but I'll provide a few pictures as well for examples:

<img src="http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Human/Gondor/Ranger/Ranger2Parade_Syt.jpg">

<img src="http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Human/Gondor/Ranger/Ranger_A_8354_GLeaf.jpg">

This one is very close:
<img src="http://fentazimg.ucoz.ru/_ph/32/487588872.jpg">
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Unread 07-31-2012, 10:39 PM   #2
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Try the historical costuming forum here; it's not mega-active, but the posters in there usually know their stuff like woah. http://www.cosplay.com/forumdisplay....prune=-1&f=185
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Unread 07-31-2012, 10:53 PM   #3
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It's not necessarily going to be historically accurate, as much as my fantasy character, but thank you!
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Unread 08-02-2012, 12:17 PM   #4
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So I guess you guys are mostly into Japanese and VERY fantastical stuff, and I'm in the wrong place. Does anyone know a forum for medieval roleplay?
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Unread 08-02-2012, 12:24 PM   #5
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If it's about the construction of cosplay namely armor, weapons, or props of some sort then you are in the right place. It doesn't matter what the genre is, so you're fine.

But I think it would make it easier if you had a direct picture of what you personally want built as well as an idea to what you're asking for exactly in construction.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 12:59 PM   #6
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The only question I see is for websites that sell leather armor. http://bit.ly/ODQo6F
I get most of my leather pieces from Lusty Leather, but that's partially because I tend to run into them a lot at faires and festivals.

Personally, I think it's more fun to build my own leather pieces. On the large scale, you can potentially save a decent bit of money, and I get exactly the piece I want as opposed to settling for what's in stock, or paying premiums for custom work. With just a little bit of practice, you can make most anything except for boots (though you can potentially make moccasins).

The best way to get started in leathercrafting is to head to your local Tandy Leather Factory. There's one in San Diego and one in Costa Mesa. Tandy employees tend to be extremely helpful.

Other questions?
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Unread 08-04-2012, 01:30 AM   #7
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That google result.... Been there, searched through all of them... None of them match up to this one website I remember looking through with my friend. It had EVERYTHING. If I find it, I'll post it here.

I also found a cool way to make leather items, here: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Mediev...r_Improved.htm

^ What do you think of that?

I live a ways north of San Diego... It'd be way out of the way to go down there, but I'll look into it.

I'm still getting the exact details planned out, otherwise, I was expecting to find things that look good, and work with it... Not make mine from scratch, since I have no specifications in mind to draw up... I don't necessarily have that much time for this hobby, as I have virtually no time to play Xbox, my primary hobby. I haven't played in a month... I work all day, and usually sleep till my next shift, lol.

Just so you know where I am on this whole matter.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 02:35 AM   #8
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Midnight, I had planned on buying basic pieces of leather armor, then making it all come together without modifying it extensively. My primary hobby in Xbox, and I haven't touched it in over a month. I don't have time to craft out and make blueprints of many ideas in my head.

I am really into ninjas, but for medieval roleplay, they don't fit in well, so imagine a ninja style in a bowman or scout. That's what I'm going for.

Verdatum, That google links... Been there, read through and searched all of them, and none of them give me the website I once looked through with my friend.... Wish I could find it again.
And about leather-crafting. Here's something interesting I found: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Mediev...r_Improved.htm

^ What do you think about that? I found it quite interesting.
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Yes, I've actually read and followed this website's instructions before. While treating leather with hot/boiling water does harden it; I found treating it with tree-resins to be far more effective. I didn't do any tests, this was just my perception. Specifically, I used brewer's pitch from Jas Townsend & Son I dunked the pieces in the heated liquified pitch, then let the excess drip off. I then hit the leather with a butane torch (a heat-gun probably would've been better) to let the resin still on the surface to re-liquify and become absorbed into the leather. The result was a lovely naturally browning in the leather.

Either way, these methods are mostly oriented towards making functional leather armor. Unless you are trying to make fitted roman legionnaire armor, or you intend to spar with real weapons, you don't really need to do anything other than cut/punch/sew/rivet the leather as desired, and possibly dye the leather to your desired color.

Also, the leather used for making functional leather armor is the heaviest/thickest leather there is. It's expensive and a bit more difficult to cut. It's much better to work with the medium weight vegetable tanned leather for armor pieces.

With the exception of the gauntlets and the belt, all of the "leather" on the reference photo appears to be vinyl pleather. If it was leather, it would be what is often referred to as "garment leather", which is a thinner leather that is generally chrome tanned to be extremely flexible.
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Unread 08-11-2012, 11:14 PM   #10
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Okay, I think I found a place within a mile from me whcih sells raw leather. So if I could have some advice on the best tanning methods and anything else to help me make leather bracers, a cuirass/chestpiece (really light armor) a pauldron, and MAYBE greaves or boots, any and all advice is welcome.
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Unread 08-14-2012, 02:56 AM   #11
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Nevermind, not RAW leather, but some thin, maybe 1/4 inch thick pre-browned leather scraps. I could layer them and make bracers that way, and I like the look of a shiny dark brown leather, laced on the bottom to tighten, but the shiny part would be counter-productive being a stealth-based character. Any thoughts on how to get it to look awesome, but smooth at the same time without being shiny? Also thinking about extending them to cover the top of my hands/my carpals.
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Unread 08-14-2012, 05:21 PM   #12
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And I might have to make my own green hood. Loose/baggy is what I'm looking for, a nice forrester's hood. If anyone has any tips for that as well, that'd be great.
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Unread 08-15-2012, 02:23 PM   #13
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Raw leather isn't really a thing. Leather, by definition, is already tanned, it's just a question of what tanning method was used.

Just about any thick leather you find is going to be vegetable tanned, and may or may not be pre-dyed.

To cut down the gloss, you can brush the surface with one or more coats of matte/satin leather finish.

A hood would generally be made from wool or oilskin. Oilskin isn't really skin, it's fabric that's been treated with a substance to make it water-resistant. I've been meaning to buy the one on page 132 of this catalog. I got them to send me a sample of the fabric; it's a dark greenish brown.

Beyond that, for advise on making a hood, you may want to go to the sewing board for help.
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Unread 08-16-2012, 01:37 AM   #14
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Posting in the sewing section.
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Unread 08-24-2012, 03:03 AM   #15
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Aaaaand, there's no help to be found there. Honestly, you have been the greatest help so far, verdatum.
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