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Unread 10-09-2012, 01:38 PM   #1
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Glue and Christmas Lights

Quick safety question regarding christmas lights.

For my costume, I have a circle of christmas lights that go around my boots. What I did was, I have a ring of cardboard that I fitted around the boot and then hole-punched a couple of holes an inch apart for the christmas lights to poke through.

Thing is, the holes are a bit big and the christmas lights are sort of drooping when put through each hole. In order for the christmas lights to stand straight in each hole, I was thinking I'd just fill the rest of the hole with E600 glue. So I tested a piece on an extra strand of lights and it does what I had in mind perfectly.

The thing I'm slightly worried about is, is the E600 glue safe around these christmas lights that I'm going to have lit for 6-7 hours? Will the lights overheat or cause the glue to melt/catch fire/any other scary thing?
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What style of lights? LED style don't get hot at all. The little tiny mini-lights don't get very hot. The old-school style of big C7 and C9 bulbs do get pretty hot, but I doubt you'd be putting those on boots since they're pretty fragile for walking around.

In terms of heat, they'll be fine. If they don't cause a dried-out old Christmas tree to catch on fire, I'm sure your glue will be no problem at all.
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Unread 10-09-2012, 03:26 PM   #3
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Modern Christmas lights are often LEDs, in which case, risk is really minimal.

Incandescent Christmas lights generate heat, but the small kind that you would reasonably wear aren't going to generate enough heat to cause this stuff to smoke. In the worst case, it might soften a bit.

the MSDS on e600 doesn't list a flash-point for the cured substance, but it does list it as a "0" in terms of a flammability hazard.

Allow the stuff to fully cure before turning the lights on.
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Unread 10-09-2012, 03:41 PM   #4
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The lights I'm using are just normal christmas lights like you'd use around the tree or outside around your house.
And I'm debating on using either E600 or hot glue. I've looked up a couple DIY projects on google (one involving backlighting a canvas by poking holes in it and sticking christmas lights in and using gorilla glue to straighten them. Another with some guy using hot glue to permantly put up the christmas lights around his house outside).
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For this application, e600 and hotglue would probably work equally well. Hot glue would be slightly more reversible, since you can just peel it away pretty easily.

Gorilla glue is slightly better for gluing porous objects, plus, it foams up during curing, which potentially needs to be filed down for the project to look good; so it's an added step.

clear silicone adhesive would also work really well, though it does take awhile to cure.
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Very helpful, verdatum thanks much!
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Also note that the LED style will likely last much longer if you're going to be battery-operated. Incandescents (including mini lights) waste a lot of power as heat.
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Unread 10-11-2012, 05:43 PM   #8
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I've hot glued mini incandescent lights plenty of times. Just don't hot glue the bulb directly, as the heat it produces can soften the glue. The base can be glued just fine.
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