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Unread 11-18-2012, 06:03 PM   #1
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Comedic mini-fight scene

My friends and I are Fem!Ranma Saotome, Akane Tendo, and Ryoga Hibiki cosplayers from Ranma 1/2 (respectively), and they're always fighting and screwing up in the manga while Akane tries to be the arbiter, so we thought it would be fun to make an amusing mini-fight scene skit of sorts -- we may not even end up performing it at a con (we are a cosplay group, so we just wanted to have that under our belts anyhow.)

But what I'm worried about -- what is general criteria for fight scenes? As I mentioned, it's more a comedy thing than a general "ass-kicking" fight, and just as preliminary prediction (because we've only got about 1/3 of the scene choreographed), it's probably going to last a little over three minutes between the small part of pre-fight bickering and the actual fighting.

So, does anyone have any general tips or no-no's as far as fight scenes go?
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Unread 11-18-2012, 06:17 PM   #2
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General rule of thumb is practice practice practice.

Performing on your own and performing in front of a live audience are two different things. In front of an audience, your adrenaline will go through the roof which will mess with your timing. So that's why it's important to be able to do this really well up to the point of being able to do this blindfolded (not literally, but you get my point).

Also practice in the cosplay. Doing the skit in regular cloths and the cosplay is also different as you never know what will happen to the costume. You never know if you might have a wardrobe malfunction. So it's best to troubleshoot all this stuff before hand to know that your cosplay can handle the stresses it'll go through.

Practice your stunts vigorously. If there are things like flips, rolls, or falls, this will need a lot of practice.

Are there any other worries or concerns?

And I hope this helped.
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Are there any other worries or concerns?

And I hope this helped.
It did help! But is there any sort of stunts that look particularly phony? We did throw a couple of stunts into it (flips, rolls, and falls), but I'm worried that it may end up looking a little rehearsed even if we work on making it look like an accident...?
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Unread 11-19-2012, 12:00 AM   #4
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That where timing is essential.

The key to any fight scene is fluidity. The movements between who's fighting need to be constant and spontaneous. The only real reason there should be any stalled movements is if there is some sort of dialogue going on or some plot device purpose. But for the most part, you're going to have to monitor yourself on this to which I'd also question is someone in your group an expert choreographer or perhaps a martial artist?

Another key thing and the most important is to exaggerate your movements.

But what do you mean by stunts that look phony?
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But what do you mean by stunts that look phony?


Well, for example, one our stunts is where I kick and my partner catches my foot and goes to twist it to throw me off balance, but I roll forward instead and throw her off balance. We're both rather pleased with it, but frankly I'm worried that we're overthinking it a bit, and it's going to look really planned on our parts.
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The first part is a move I can see happening and have seen it done a couple of times before. But I don't understand the second move where you roll forward to unbalance her. There are four kinds of forward type kicks is martial arts being a front, side, round house, and back kick. Now I can see how any of these kicks can be intercepted and twisted off balance. But I'm having trouble imagining how you'd roll forward unbalancing them.

Of course this is just me as I don't understand what the second move is without seeing it. However if you work hard at it making it seem fluid, you can easily sell any fight scene.

Although I'd say be careful with the first move because I've seen a lot of people sprain their ankles like that due to not being synchronized with the person who is doing the twisting.

Is there any way you can post a video clip of your action skit? This way either I or someone else can give you the proper critique of what we see and possibly some suggestions to make it even more awesome.

I'd also question if you're going to use Ryoga's umbrella weapon.
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I'd also question if you're going to use Ryoga's umbrella weapon.
I'm not, because mine is made of paper and already has a few small rips in it here and there, and to be honest, I bought it for dirt cheap at a summer sale and I would have no idea where to find another one if it ripped while performing, or even worse, if it ripped during a practice and I had to replace it quickly pre-con. I am going to use bandanas though (since I mentioned that the whole fight is supposed to be more amusing than 'fighting'), since in the manga, Ryoga will just sporadically tear off his bandanas and never run out (so I'm going to wear a few with magnets in them over my actual one that I can quickly tear off and "catch" around Ranma's wrist.)
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Unread 11-19-2012, 12:26 PM   #8
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Yeah that's fine then. No worries. Just practice it out and you'll be fine.

Any other questions?
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