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Unread 11-24-2012, 10:43 PM   #1
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Help haveing spear problems!

Not sure if you call it a spear or not. In any case I looked around and there is no spear like the one I am trying to make. So its all on me whats worse is its my first time and I am a bit lost. So far the matericals I have are.

5 lbs of Model Magic pure white
One pole form an old mop just the poll
Two cut outs of the spear hear

What would be the best way to go about this tried two ways have had no success may need to use super glue not sure. Also the spear head both ways I made it was top heavy. Alreay shaped the spear head on cardbord

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Unread 11-25-2012, 10:30 AM   #2
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Well first that is a Naginata.

If I understand this correctly, you've already made the blade and that the current pole you have is hollow?
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Unread 11-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #3
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What ways have you tried that failed?

I would say anchor the flat cardboard head pieces to the pole and then sculpt the shape of the spear on top of it. Let it dry, then flip it over over and sculpt the other side. Make sure that you cover up all of the cardboard in the process.
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Unread 11-25-2012, 05:46 PM   #4
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well this one is vary similar
hope it helps
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Unread 11-25-2012, 07:52 PM   #5
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Thank you was not sure what to call it so I went with something close.

As for my first way I used model Magic around the pool to connect with the carbord then some around the edges but it fell of. Maybe becuse it was not dry. It was a bit top heavy.

The second was the same with a bit more model magic along with some sapports but it completelt fell off and was supper heavy proble used almost three pounds on it.
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Unread 11-25-2012, 08:22 PM   #6
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Then why not connect the pole directly to the blade.

if the blade is already made then just make a hole in it just big enough to put the pole through it connecting it to the entire base. Then from there hardening it will work without fail.
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Unread 11-25-2012, 09:16 PM   #7
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The only problem with what you say is right now its flat two peaces together not even an inch think. My poles thicker then that so your idea unless I make it super heavy top wise like 4-5 pounds come pared to my pole at a pound or two at the most. Makeing it weight heavy. But thanks for the suggestion
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Unread 11-26-2012, 12:06 AM   #8
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Model magic isn't a very strong material and doesn't bond with things other than itself, so I wouldn't expect it to hold any weight or provide an adhesion.

What you do is you notch the cardboard piece at the bottom the same width of the pole. Then, you slide the pole into the notch, make sure it's centered and glue it in. Then when you are sculpting, just cover up the join.
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Unread 11-26-2012, 12:40 AM   #9
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Have you considered using foam?

It's far lighter and easier to work with.
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Unread 11-26-2012, 09:14 PM   #10
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I see I may try that dbchan and see if iit works just dont want it to be to flat or to weighted.

Midnight Dawn I have never used foam had some expirences worried to try as it be my first time ever useing foam. I would also have no idea ware to get it.
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Unread 11-27-2012, 12:39 AM   #11
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Where do you live?

Most craft foam can be purchased in any arts and craft store or a wallmart.

If coated well with glue, it will give a nice smooth finish.
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Unread 11-27-2012, 10:22 PM   #12
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I moved to washington not long ago and like I said I am new to makeing wepond first time and never have I used craft foam in the few art class I have taken. As for model magic only once a few years back.
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Unread 11-29-2012, 07:25 AM   #13
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The general term is "pole arm" and yes, even the real thing is top heavy, it's actually on purpose for lopping off heads at a distance.

Notching your blade will help with the bonding of the two pieces together. I agree model Magic is for decoration only, not support. You can add a little weight to the opposite end of the pole for balance & easier carrying. If it's hollow, stuff some fishing weights inside it & then seal the end.
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Unread 12-02-2012, 09:54 PM   #14
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I know it ment to be top heavy and I know what the weponds perpous. I meen it was way over as I gave above estimate that the pole was a pound while the blade was almost five. Also sadly its not hallow it was an old mop handel pole what ever you feel like calling it. Thanks for the ideas though.
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