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Unread 01-22-2013, 02:34 PM   #16
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Never been involved with cosplay drama. I'm not included in any comm.'s or groups besides the one with my friends. Reading about other people and their drama though, I've come to the conclusion its mostly about competition an that's why there's so much drama in the hobby.
Why do some people see it as a competition? Who knows.
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Unread 01-22-2013, 04:10 PM   #17
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I'm still relatively new to this side of cosplay, coming from a few years' stint in Ren Faire (where one person seems to treat the word 'cosplay' like it's a 4-letter word). But it seems a lot of the drama and other nonsense really does overlap quite a bit.

It really seems cosplay drama is rooted in a sense of entitlement and insecurity. People figure they're entitled to positive attention because they spent countless hours researching and working on their costume. They feel insecure enough that it seems only the attention of others can prop them up, as opposed to feeling satisfied and proud of their achievements. (I'm sure we all know how hard making a costume from scratch is, and are proud of being able to stick with it.) A lot of times, it's all about drawing attention to one's self, regardless of the methods chosen to do so.
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Unread 01-22-2013, 04:43 PM   #18
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It really seems cosplay drama is rooted in a sense of entitlement and insecurity.
^THIS. Especially the entitlement part. A lot of the cosplay drama I've seen stems from people feeling they're entitled to decided what others can do with their cosplay. There's people who think they can tell others they can't cosplay a character because it's overdone, they don't have the right body/skin tone/etc for the character, or they simply hate that character/series. Unless you're their parent, you can't make cosplay decisions for other people.
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Unread 01-22-2013, 04:55 PM   #19
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^THIS. Especially the entitlement part. A lot of the cosplay drama I've seen stems from people feeling they're entitled to decided what others can do with their cosplay. There's people who think they can tell others they can't cosplay a character because it's overdone, they don't have the right body/skin tone/etc for the character, or they simply hate that character/series. Unless you're their parent, you can't make cosplay decisions for other people.
It's all very similar to why I'm taking a long (possibly indefinite) hiatus from Ren Faire. The group I was part of seemed to transition from 'let's dress to fit these roles and have a great time while entertaining patrons' to 'let's all dress up and fawn over soandso (name withheld), because she's the center of our Universe even when she's not in character'. The cattiness and 'us or them' nonsense just kept increasing, and it sucked all the enjoyment out of Faire for me. I may eventually return as a patron, but I think my days in an organized group are essentially over, that group left such a bitter taste in my mouth.

My ventures into cosplay have so far been positive, likely because I treat people the way I'd want to be treated. No drama on my end so far. *knocks on wood*
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Unread 01-22-2013, 08:15 PM   #20
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WOW all of my drama was even before I started cosplaying. I've been in some pretty bad situations growing up and I think it made abusive people attracted to me. They always find me (Not as much these days but that's because I'm learning to stand up for myself).
BUT a certain acquaintance that was very close to my friend started bitching when I said I wanted to get into cosplaying, calling me fat to my face and laughing at me for wanting to cosplay. She is now trying to copy me after gaining as much weight as I lost when I quit talking to her. I don't really mind people's size or whatnot, it's just the irony of her being selective and rude and then getting it thrown in her face.
Yeah. Did I mention she's trying to copy me and outdo me? I don't wanna compete with a jerk D:
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Unread 01-22-2013, 08:35 PM   #21
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I don't have any cosplay friends in my area, so I dont really experience drama unless it's with myself. I mean, there are people who cosplay in my school/town but.. I'd.. mmm.
I feel like my feelings would be best described in a Tumblr post.

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Unread 01-22-2013, 09:12 PM   #22
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Why? Because people.

There's drama in sports fandom, drama in celebrity-stalking, drama in entertainment, drama in geek circles of every kind. The reason: people.

All we can do is resolve not to be that person and rise above it. Whether that means quietly taking stock of one's own personality and habits and resolving to be the change they wish to see, or it means making and adhering to rules or doing other tangible things, either way. Drama can't happen unless you let it.
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Unread 01-22-2013, 09:12 PM   #23
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I feel like my feelings would be best described in a Tumblr post.

http://m-1racle.tumblr.com/post/4124...ime-club-at-my
I am SO glad the other cosplayers at my school aren't like this. They're all really chill, mature, and cool; also really silly though. :3 I love 'em.

On topic though..I know I cause cosplay drama. I know I do, and I know when I try to fix it I just end up making it worse a lot of the time. That said, it's usually because a lot of the people around me and me have trouble actually saying what we mean and get misjudged by each other. An elitist, to me, is someone who publicly humiliates other cosplayers and/or feels 'holier than thou' and very obviously shows it off when they interact with others. Judging people quietly or silently ALWAYS happens, and, to me, as long as it doesn't truly become a problem, is normal for people. To most people I know, however, an elitist seems to be anyone who even so much as implies something is wrong with another cosplayer's costume; god forbid if the person saying it cosplays the same character as them, then they just want to feel better about themselves.
Drama really peaked last year, getting me all but booted out of my group of con friends up to that point without even having a chance to explain, and wrecking a friendship with my best friend. But, for the latter, I am trying my hardest not to let the same things bother me and to think more before I say or do anything so it won't happen again.
The biggest thing that I hate about drama in general, though...is that all it is is disagreements. When it becomes drama, though, is when instead of confronting someone, telling them what you dislike about how they act or etc, you instead decide to sneak behind their backs and resolve it by causing more problems. I just don't see the point in it, although I do see its place where cosplay is such a vast community, and there could be a lot of secrets kept secret.
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Unread 01-23-2013, 01:53 AM   #24
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ugh. even when you have an awesome group of friends, one person is enough to make a difference and change the mood of the weekend -_- it doesn't even have to do much with elitism or snobbery, for me, times I've dealt with con drama had to do with friendship complications or a conflict I got dragged into. Unfortunately, they're those unavoidable kinds of situations that sneak up on you. ergheregrh
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Unread 01-23-2013, 02:05 AM   #25
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There is a ton of cosplay drama here... but I think its more of because we're all stuck on a small island with each other, so most people kinda know each other or knows someone who knows such and such.

A lot of people are a bit cosplay selfish and have the mentality that they MUST be the only one of whatever character. I don't care but I keep an eye out because it happens far to offen and causes problems for me. (It's happened with Russia, Alice, Gokudera, Slade, and Hijikata....)
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Unread 01-23-2013, 03:46 AM   #26
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There is a ton of cosplay drama here... but I think its more of because we're all stuck on a small island with each other, so most people kinda know each other or knows someone who knows such and such.
I think this is such a fantastic analogy.

I don't think anybody in their right mind want to spend all their time stressing out and fighting, but the community can be a pressure cooker sometimes. There's people who take themselves too seriously, people who get their kicks off of feeling big and tough bossing everyone else around, people who just like the adrenaline of yelling/fussing/kicking and screaming... and so forth.

Honestly, speaking as someone who is volatile and short-tempered, short bursts are usually easier to deal with than prolonged grudges, and for the sake of everyone's sanity, it's best to separate personalities from actual cosplay and give everyone the chance to improve from their screw-ups. If someone is sane, they won't keep track of your failings. Making up for your mistakes with maturity and a friendly attitude is more important.

Also, being the better person doesn't always mean being passive. You can do plenty to make people make themselves look ridiculous just by keeping a calm or friendly attitude while they're, well, not.

I feel like I'm rambling up in this thread too much.... I just feel like conflict resolution is easier than people think, heheh.
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Unread 01-23-2013, 04:10 AM   #27
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I think this is such a fantastic analogy.
Err.....Awesome. It wasn't meant to be an analogy though. I live in Hawaii, particularly on the main island of Oahu. So I really do live on a small island where everyone knows almost everyone else...
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Unread 01-23-2013, 01:13 PM   #28
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Ehh can't say I've been apart of cosplay drama, and I do try to avoid it as best as I can, but there are times when I've gotten angry when it comes to friends and compromising cosplay plans. I have a lot of cosplays planned and I try to plan them out accordingly so I don't spend a lot of money on things I don't plan to use multiple times for that year. The problem that generally occurs is that my friends will want to do a bunch of couple or group cosplays (for the entire con pretty much) that I'm usually not feeling atm and if I say no, they whine until I cave. Basically my entire problem with AWA 2012. I was hoping to do Rei Ayanami and someone else (think it was Yuffie). Ended up being Stocking Anarchy and Marshall Lee for my friend. I like P&S but I wasn't ready to do Stocking. And I don't watch Adventure Time.

Then of course, when I plan a cosplay, my friends want to group up with me and I don't mind that as long as I know that they aren't doing it just to do a group cosplay with me. Most of my costumes are from series they don't like so it bugs me when they try to cosplay from the series for my sake. Like, no, that's a waste of their time and money. Don't do that. Stahp.

So it's not really drama but it can turn into drama if someone is unhappy cosplaying ya know? I want to avoid that.

But this year, I do have to put my foot down. The only group-ish cosplay I think is happening is Sailor Moon and maybe Pokemon.
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Unread 01-23-2013, 02:08 PM   #29
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I've never caused or been a part of any cosplay drama, thankfully.
Sure, I have some friends that I may hang out with for a little at cons, but I tend to stay by myself for the most part... Just makes things much easier that way. =)
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Unread 01-23-2013, 02:56 PM   #30
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Never been a part of it but i have a friend who drags drama like a dead puppy. part of it is that he can't seem to enjoy a costume he made if he sees someone with the same suit or prop as him, part of it is him he wants the attention and he lacks the talent but he trys and he trys hard and i try to help where i can but he likes doing it himself, and sadly he is hard on himself

it also comes whe he sees a girl he likes and she wont look at him because he feels his cosplay sucks

and of course the big part he feels limited to what cosplays he can do, he is black wont use contacts , for masks so limits himself, and finally always rushes it in 2 days
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