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Unread 05-12-2013, 05:01 PM   #1
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Charging for Rights to Photos

I was asked by a cosplayer recently to shoot them at an upcoming con, and that they'd like to potentially use the images to sell prints and pay for the rights. I've never charged for shoots before/for the rights to use my pictures to sell prints - so I have no idea what to set the price at.
I'm curious to know what other photographers have charged, to get a rough idea. I'm not looking to get rich off of this/a cut of their profits lol, just figuring out what'd be a fair.
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Unread 05-12-2013, 11:58 PM   #2
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I recommend selling the rights for them to print/sell, but not complete ownership of the images.

It sounds far too simple, but pick a price that you think they would accept and that you would be happy with. Otherwise, ask the cosplayer if they have a price in mind and then see if it's satisfactory!

Some photographers are doing % of print sales for compensation too.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 01:05 PM   #3
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There's a couple of different ways this is typically structured, for instance:

work-for-hire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_for_hire) - This isn't very popular among the photography community since photographers don't like giving up the rights to their images. It's generally expensive to do on a single-time basis, $100/hr, $200/hr or more for a known photographer, unless it is a part-time or full-time position at a firm (with benefits, some job security, etc.)

shared rights - You both maintain rights to the images for your own purposes. These rights may or may not overlap, Ie. as a photographer you would maintain rights to do what you normally do with the image, while the model is granted rights of her own to do what she wants to do with the image. It's best to specify both -- for contract purposes. Remember that without a contract, normally the photographer gets all rights and the model doesn't have any, so you have to grant rights to the model as well as possibly forgo them yourself.

partnership or royalty - As the author of the work, you get a portion of the gross sales, or a portion of the gross profit made from the sale, or some other form of compensation.
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We had a pretty thorough discussion on this not long ago:
http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=318369

Personally, it depends on the "vibe" I get from the cosplayer. I usually don't mind giving away print rights for free; it generally means that person is a pretty serious cosplayer with quality costumes and attention to detail. So, I probably want to get on his or her good side so that I'm on the "short list" of photographer choices in the future.

When shooting professionally, my rates are pretty steep compared to what I charge for "fun" or cosplay shoots. A few bucks in royalties on cosplay photos won't make or break my business. Quite to the contrary: Being generous with photo rights will just help me build my reputation in the community.

If I ever feel that I'm being taken advantage of, I'll change my policies. So far, that hasn't happened.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 01:54 PM   #5
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We had a pretty thorough discussion on this not long ago:
http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=318369

Personally, it depends on the "vibe" I get from the cosplayer. I usually don't mind giving away print rights for free; it generally means that person is a pretty serious cosplayer with quality costumes and attention to detail. So, I probably want to get on his or her good side so that I'm on the "short list" of photographer choices in the future.

When shooting professionally, my rates are pretty steep compared to what I charge for "fun" or cosplay shoots. A few bucks in royalties on cosplay photos won't make or break my business. Quite to the contrary: Being generous with photo rights will just help me build my reputation in the community.

If I ever feel that I'm being taken advantage of, I'll change my policies. So far, that hasn't happened.
Pretty much sums is up IMO
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Unread 06-03-2013, 04:41 PM   #6
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Personally, it depends on the "vibe" I get from the cosplayer. I usually don't mind giving away print rights for free; it generally means that person is a pretty serious cosplayer with quality costumes and attention to detail. So, I probably want to get on his or her good side so that I'm on the "short list" of photographer choices in the future.
"You owe me a beer" works for me.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 07:32 PM   #7
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"You owe me a beer" works for me.
I knew a photographer like this once, he swore the constant drinking was essential to keeping his hands steady and was always drinking 'on the job'.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 11:15 PM   #8
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I knew a photographer like this once, he swore the constant drinking was essential to keeping his hands steady and was always drinking 'on the job'.
It's easy to feel you're keeping your hands steady while the rest of the world is wobbling.
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