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[AnnAnime]

If I was you, I wouldn't give her nothing for just being rude and obnoxuose. Sorry for the spelling.

She can't treat you that way after you being nice to her. Another thing is that she bugged you everynight and wasn't even trying to make it easier on you by simply giving you measurements you needed. It's hard to work on anything without them and just wastes your time. She also seems lazy, a few measurements only take a few seconds to do... not a whole week.

She needs to learn that just because someone like you makes things like this for money does not give her the right to walk all over you and be rude to you.

I wouldn't give her a refund for nothing, even if it is broke... sounds like she just wanted something for nothing to me. Tell her something like " look, I cannot give you a refund because you broke our contract. You did not come through with the proper measurements when I needed them and you were also very rude to me. You also did not send the money with the signed contract as agreed, therefore you broke the contract, so you get no refund."

I think that should be good enough reason not to give her a refund.

[Northern]

Izzy...sounds so very familier to me, probably the chick that had me start on a $500 costume (this thing was rediculiously large, complicated and had to be made from leather/pleather) and pulled out after I spent time making the pattern and starting the costume...without payment mind you. Stupid, stupid me!.

As for sending a client to a commissioner who you already KNOW is a scamer, just because they cant make your price requirment....there is something wrong there guys. No offense, but it seems rude and underhanded to do something like that to a client. Couldnt you send them to a comissioner that has discounts or try to work in the clients budget? Thats what I, personally, do when a client cant meet my price.

Comeon everyone....some clients just dont have hundreads of dollars to spend, and isnt this all about the heart and fun we have cosplaying? Give clients a break and absolutly DO NOT send them off to scam artists!

[Rain Miko]

AnnAnime- You have no idea how much I'd love to do that. But I don't want my business being ruined because I didn't refund her for it (she's getting 1/2 refund, btw).

However, if she verbally attacks me again, she wont get ANY refund whatsoever -_-

[Yumeko]

Originally Posted by Northern

As for sending a client to a commissioner who you already KNOW is a scamer, just because they cant make your price requirment....there is something wrong there guys. No offense, but it seems rude and underhanded to do something like that to a client. Couldnt you send them to a comissioner that has discounts or try to work in the clients budget? Thats what I, personally, do when a client cant meet my price.

Comeon everyone....some clients just dont have hundreads of dollars to spend, and isnt this all about the heart and fun we have cosplaying? Give clients a break and absolutly DO NOT send them off to scam artists!

I am not going to lie and say that I am not mildly offended by this post becuase I am. No commissioner deserves to have their time/money/resources waisted on an unreliable client.
It's not fair to hard working legitimate commissioners either to waist their time waiting for a person to "decide" weather or not they want your services or are too cheap to pay for them.
I don't mean to sound harsh but either learn to sew or don't bitch when the other commissioner who had prices you liked screws you over. Even though I had been sewing since I was 8 years old, I didn't have a sewing machine of my own and had looked at Cosplay Closet to get a costume commissioned and it was too much so I just made it myself.
As a commissioner, I have never sent a client to another commissioner knowing they would get ripped off. that was their choice to find someone else.

I've had clients:
-send payment a week before the deadline fully expecting to get their costume on time. The day I saw her paypal posted payment I returned it instantly
-STEAL and CLAIM a costume as their own
-Request something, ask for progress pics (which I would send weekly) then one week before it is to be sent say it is the wrong item and demand a refund

And that's just a few things.

[Mimette]

I am not stating that I have sent clients to "scammers". I merely send them to sites that offer costumes in the price range that they think I should be working at. They can determine for themselves if they want to buy from them. Nobody forces them to buy from them, it is their choice. I don't hold a gun to their head saying "you didn't want to pay MY price so you WILL buy from them". They make that choice on their own. If they want a shoddy costume (and I'm sorry but Setsuna Kou's pictures alone show the level of her "work") after seeing the example photos, then that is their choice. I am not about to waste my time and undercut my wages and work ethics to give them a "budget costume". And frankly, other than people who do lower grade work, I don't know of anybody that does "discounts".

[Ambient_Blue]

Originally Posted by Rain Miko

Oh, and the icing on the cake; she demanded a progress picture from me almost every night. There were some nights I was simply SO busy that I couldn't get one for her, and it made her upset

Ah, it's people like this that forced Katie Bair ("the wig lady") to enact a policy stating if you send her more than 2 emails demanding a status check on their wig commission, she'll refund everything automatically and toss the commission. Honestly, I can't blame her a damn bit. How are you supposed to get any work done with people up your butt every other night? If I was a commissioner, I'd have to emulate Katie's policy if only to maintain my sanity.

It's amazing how buyers can be just as bad as the sellers.

[Northern]

I have seen Miss koi's...interesting...work, and I agree with what you are saying about not wanting to screw yourselves over with an unreliable client, please, i have been there myself...stalkers, marriage proposals and VERY pushy, obnoxious clients can get on any comissioners nerves, All I am saying is that there are comissioners out there that do work at discounted rates for clients that are much better then people like Miss Koi. Truly I did not mean to offend anyone on this board, I was just expressing my concern, really, if people like Miss Koi continue to get comissiones, they will ontinue to give the rest of us bad names, and that, my friends, is what I believe is truly unfair.

Please accept my appology, and understand that I did not mean to upset anyone over my last post, like I said before, costume making and cosplay is supposed to be fun, not stressful. Gomen ne.

[AnnAnime]

The only time I ever Give discounts is if I REALLY REALLY want to amke a certain costume or promote myself a little.

I agree that it is unfair to us that commissioners like her give us a bad Rep!

I see more and more people now that are sterotypes just because they were scammed by a commissioner, so now they think all of them will.

I hear this saying too often. "I will never get another commission done ever again because of that.

I hate to say this but stereotyping is VERY VERY Wrong!!! I don't care how bad the experience was, it doesn't mean all commissioners are bad. I was abused by 2 boyfreinds but I didn't say " Well I'll never love anyone now because of that." and I found someone that is an awesome guy all because I had an open mind about it.

This is all just really annoying. It's unfair to us when people do that. I even have people say to me "Now I will get this won't I? I won't get scammed?"

I want to just scream in frustration.

Does anyone else feel this way?

[Northern]

I feel that way all the time Ann....its very difficult to make a good reputation with bad comissioners making the rest of us look like them!

Whats worse....is when your cat knocks over a vat of fabric paint! Damnit! Now I have to clean that >.<

[Ambient_Blue]

Speaking of people who like to steal other's photos to sell their costumes...http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5-Modelle-Cosp...QQcmdZViewItem

Scroll down and you'll find a photo of Haruka/Lillyxandra's Chii costume used.

You'd think people would have more brains than this...why use the photo of an extremely popular cosplayer to pimp your fake work? This only advertises that you ARE, in fact, a scam. DUH.

[AmazonMandy]

He's new...and apparently he's both from Asia AND Germany. Most likely he's a scammer, maybe one of our old ones going by a new name?

[Misarylane]

Originally Posted by Ambient_Blue

Speaking of people who like to steal other's photos to sell their costumes...http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5-Modelle-Cosp...QQcmdZViewItem

Scroll down and you'll find a photo of Haruka/Lillyxandra's Chii costume used.

You'd think people would have more brains than this...why use the photo of an extremely popular cosplayer to pimp your fake work? This only advertises that you ARE, in fact, a scam. DUH.

he's not smart, every thing on thare says "SCAMMER"


I have to say this...i find myself BEGGING for custumers some times and thats all thanks to scammers, I remember when I use to get a lot of emails from all over and now I'm lucky if I get a "sure you can make it for me" that really bites. Sewing is my life and I love knowing that some one is wharein my costume some where...BUT I REALLY HATE SCAMMERS!!!

Peace and Love

[ShinWHO]

Generally speaking, I'm pretty amused with some of the stuff that goes on on ebay. But what I saw recently irritates even me. I was one of 2 people to purchase Rei's plugsuit from all_for_you2006 (aka greand2005 last year, awesome costumes if you get them). After waiting for a while and then doing some prodding, I got an impressive costume. The other person left negative feedback, basically saying it was horrible. A few weeks later, the other person listed the costume for a penny under a brand new user name and claimed they had made it themselves! I saw the auction, turned to my left and was looking at EXACTLY the same thing sent by all_for_you2006. Now THAT was low.

[AnnAnime]

Don't you hate it Even more when you're painting something and then accidently smear some paint on what you're working on?

I really hate it when it happens to me.

Originally Posted by Northern

I feel that way all the time Ann....its very difficult to make a good reputation with bad comissioners making the rest of us look like them!

Whats worse....is when your cat knocks over a vat of fabric paint! Damnit! Now I have to clean that >.<

[Misarylane]

Originally Posted by AnnAnime

Don't you hate it Even more when you're painting something and then accidently smear some paint on what you're working on?

I really hate it when it happens to me.

I have a mouse so I don't have to worry about that, but my old cat Artemis would get really angry at me and rip my stuff up when i wasn't looking...evil kitty.