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Unread 08-10-2013, 12:15 AM   #21106
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^Ugh, people like that give OC cosplayers a bad name. Jeans and t-shirt? For fuck's sake, put some effort into it!

Seriously- even established characters who wear street clothes usually have something to make them stand out- a jacket or shirt cut a little differently than "off the rack" stuff that you could find anywhere, decorations on their clothes, or accessories. Kyle Katarn of Star Wars is a good example- he wears a fairly ordinary pants and shirt, but he accessorizes with a little bit of leather armor, boots instead of sneakers, and his lightsaber.
http://adlpictures.deviantart.com/ar...tarn-179959098

Or Han Solo- he's got a fairly plain outfit by SW universe standards- pants, collared shirt, and a vest. But his pants have some decoration, and he's got a very distinctive belt and holster rig, together with his blaster.
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content...Han_Solo_2.jpg

So there you have it- two characters who wear fairly plain clothing, but thanks to good use of accessories, manage to stand out and look cool. Perhaps if more OC cosplayers put some thought into their creations to make them "pop" a little more instead of looking indistinguishable from modern streetwear, OC cosplay would have a better reputation instead of being considered lazy.

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Unread 08-10-2013, 12:21 AM   #21107
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Cosplay purchasing pet peeves, people selling wonderful costumes/wigs but then they only answer 'yes' 'no' 'sure' '[price]' to your questions. FFS, I'm not asking for a novel, but I usually won't buy a costume if you can't put the effort in to at least write a sentence to me about it. >.>

Also, wanting a specific style of wig but that style being the one that is duplicated on at least 20 different eBay sellers' pages. Whyyy.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 12:56 AM   #21108
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Pet peeve: Cosplay wigs that shed....I got my new wig today and....it sheds like crazy man.....another thing is people who tell me sewing is cheaper then buying costumes like I do..i'm sorry I can't sew, I can only do basic sewing on buttons and patches.....that's it....can someone explain WHY sewing your costume is SO important?
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Unread 08-10-2013, 01:31 AM   #21109
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Pet peeve: Cosplay wigs that shed....I got my new wig today and....it sheds like crazy man.....another thing is people who tell me sewing is cheaper then buying costumes like I do..i'm sorry I can't sew, I can only do basic sewing on buttons and patches.....that's it....can someone explain WHY sewing your costume is SO important?
Yeah, I don't sew either. I think the reason why people on here try and get people who buy/commish to sew instead, is just because people like other people to do it their way(I mean, I do it too, I sometimes tell my friends who make their cosplay that they'd save so much time and energy if they just commissioned, haha). So yeah, when you think there's a better way/a way you like better than what someone else is doing, you try and get them to do it(even if they don't want to/can't!)
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Unread 08-10-2013, 05:18 AM   #21110
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It's not "important", but if it's cheaper I'm going to mention it since for most people money is a concern. I also mention when just buying a simple item will be cheaper than making it.

Everyone starts a new skill having never done it before, so I feel like saying "I can't do it" without having really given it a shot (maybe you have, but I wouldn't know - I wouldn't suggest if a person gives a reason they are not able to sew it themselves) is a bit pessimistic. I have done about 50 hours of embroidery on my current costume - and I have never embroidered before. I talked to a friend and we Googled things for a few minutes and then I just tried it - now I'm almost done and I've accomplished something I've never done before and it's given me the courage to think that some day I could take on a more delicate embroidery project (I've always wanted to do one of these, but knew that I wouldn't be happy with shortcuts (like using pre-fab lace or ribbon instead of embroidery) and certainly couldn't afford to have someone else do that).

If a person is happy to buy a costume and can afford something they are happy with, great ! But I know that a lot of people end up being very surprised by how much it costs to have someone make you a really, really nice costume. I would have to pay someone over $2000 for the costume I'm making for $300. I would guess that it would cost $10,000 or more to have someone make me a court suit like I linked to. But I can do it myself for maybe $500 or less.

If people have simpler costume wants or are able to drop $10,000 on a shiny - great ! But most of the people asking here and elsewhere have lower budgets and it would be wrong to not try to encourage them to get the most out of their money and try something new if it's at all possible - especially if the costume they want is way out of their budget to have commissioned. Even making just a few parts can save a lot of money that you can spend to get higher quality out of the parts you ARE having made.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 05:28 AM   #21111
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Everyone starts a new skill having never done it before, so I feel like saying "I can't do it" without having really given it a shot (maybe you have, but I wouldn't know - I wouldn't suggest if a person gives a reason they are not able to sew it themselves) is a bit pessimistic. I have done about 50 hours of embroidery on my current costume - and I have never embroidered before. I talked to a friend and we Googled things for a few minutes and then I just tried it - now I'm almost done and I've accomplished something I've never done before and it's given me the courage to think that some day I could take on a more delicate embroidery project
I had a situation like yours before. In fact it was in December! I decided I wanted to cosplay Alphonse Elric and no one really does him so I spent a few days looking up some information on how to do armor. I ended up finding a nice papercraft model someone had made in pepakura and also stumbled upon a youtube tutorial from a guy who was really good at doing Iron Man related costumes using EVA Foam. 2 weeks later (Had to wait for the foam) I was cutting out the templates and starting to piece together a full body suit of armor. It wasn't too expensive and I think I did a pretty decent job for my first time ever attempting it despite having to scrap it because I accidentally scaled the pieces wrong.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 12:38 PM   #21112
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Everyone starts a new skill having never done it before, so I feel like saying "I can't do it" without having really given it a shot (maybe you have, but I wouldn't know - I wouldn't suggest if a person gives a reason they are not able to sew it themselves) is a bit pessimistic. I have done about 50 hours of embroidery on my current costume - and I have never embroidered before. I talked to a friend and we Googled things for a few minutes and then I just tried it - now I'm almost done and I've accomplished something I've never done before and it's given me the courage to think that some day I could take on a more delicate embroidery project (I've always wanted to do one of these, but knew that I wouldn't be happy with shortcuts (like using pre-fab lace or ribbon instead of embroidery) and certainly couldn't afford to have someone else do that).
That's a little different than what we were talking about, basically when people say "I can't sew because of this factor and this factor, so I'm looking to buy costumes" and people suggesting to learn to sew.

People buy/commish for lots of reasons, like for me I don't sew because I live in a two bedroom apartment with four people. There is zero space for sewing, I can't do it. Plain and simple. Other people have their reasons, but when people ask where they can buy costumes, and mention that they can't sew for reasons, than people shouldn't suggest that they should sew. =/
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Unread 08-11-2013, 09:05 PM   #21113
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Unfortunately, Coscom has been in limbo for years with no real expected finish date (if there is one). People post here and there about it, but nothing ever gets done.
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Unread 08-11-2013, 09:33 PM   #21114
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That's a little different than what we were talking about, basically when people say "I can't sew because of this factor and this factor, so I'm looking to buy costumes" and people suggesting to learn to sew.

People buy/commish for lots of reasons, like for me I don't sew because I live in a two bedroom apartment with four people. There is zero space for sewing, I can't do it. Plain and simple. Other people have their reasons, but when people ask where they can buy costumes, and mention that they can't sew for reasons, than people shouldn't suggest that they should sew. =/
I said in my original post on the subject that I wouldn't suggest it if they gave a reason. Since the person I was responding to didn't say anything about that subject at all I qualified my post and gave reasons why sewing wound be suggested if whoever was asking *didn't* give any reasons why sewing wound not be possible.

The majority of the threads I've seen and all the ones I've responded to and suggested sewing are ones where the person says that that are not *good* at sewing - and I do think people should be encouraged to try something even if the outcome isn't gong to be perfect at first because even those of us who are now confident in our abilities once started from nothing and "not being good" at something.
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Unread 08-11-2013, 09:49 PM   #21115
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I said in my original post on the subject that I wouldn't suggest it if they gave a reason. Since the person I was responding to didn't say anything about that subject at all I qualified my post and gave reasons why sewing wound be suggested if whoever was asking *didn't* give any reasons why sewing wound not be possible.

The majority of the threads I've seen and all the ones I've responded to and suggested sewing are ones where the person says that that are not *good* at sewing - and I do think people should be encouraged to try something even if the outcome isn't gong to be perfect at first because even those of us who are now confident in our abilities once started from nothing and "not being good" at something.
Thank you both for your responses, I would say now that I think of it, both are about equal...sewing is pricey depending on fabric cost and costumes that are bought can vary as well. For example, I spent 420$ on four costumes at once (so 105$ per costume) and I set rules for myself that I follow
1. Costume must be under a certain price (200$)
2. Costume must have something reusable i.e. shirt, pants, skirt ect (though I have made exceptions)
3. Costume must cover me (Belly bust and butt not showing)
I love buying my costumes mainly due to I tried to sew once....my project got stolen from me by my grandmother and then done WRONG.... so I planned to remake it...but then...got scared....
Recently it has come to my attention that I have to replace zippers on two of my costumes and I HAVE no clue how to do that...
To end my ramble, I will say again that they're both about equal but as I have previously stated in the past, weather you make or buy...at the end of the day we are all nerds in costumes
Pet Peeve: people who take my sewing projects then do them wrong... like its a kimono...its supposed to be overly long.... and another is Yuki Cross' 2nd ball gown...why are you so hard to draw -_- and i'm running out of paper....geh....
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Unread 08-11-2013, 11:25 PM   #21116
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Unread 08-12-2013, 01:51 AM   #21117
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Unread 08-12-2013, 02:16 AM   #21118
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I am getting so tired of the disgusting comments people make on facebook cosplay pages whenever a female is featured. The top comments are always "10/10 would bang" or "id rape her" and it makes me so angry I don't even have words for it. Wtf does sex have anything to do with how good a cosplay is?
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Unread 08-12-2013, 03:48 AM   #21119
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I am getting so tired of the disgusting comments people make on facebook cosplay pages whenever a female is featured. The top comments are always "10/10 would bang" or "id rape her" and it makes me so angry I don't even have words for it. Wtf does sex have anything to do with how good a cosplay is?
Me too. I don't have many revealing costumes but STILL people make weird comments. Like my Hanekawa Tsubasa cosplay, I DON'T want people to write "BEEWWBZ" or something like that on my photos. I didn't do this cosplay to show my boobs, I did it because I love the character. I didn't turn some innocent character into an uber-sexy-lady, I did how actually it is. Why people don't understand this?
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Unread 08-12-2013, 05:54 AM   #21120
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Thank you both for your responses, I would say now that I think of it, both are about equal...sewing is pricey depending on fabric cost and costumes that are bought can vary as well. For example, I spent 420$ on four costumes at once (so 105$ per costume) and I set rules for myself that I follow
1. Costume must be under a certain price (200$)
2. Costume must have something reusable i.e. shirt, pants, skirt ect (though I have made exceptions)
3. Costume must cover me (Belly bust and butt not showing)
I love buying my costumes mainly due to I tried to sew once....my project got stolen from me by my grandmother and then done WRONG.... so I planned to remake it...but then...got scared....
Recently it has come to my attention that I have to replace zippers on two of my costumes and I HAVE no clue how to do that...
To end my ramble, I will say again that they're both about equal but as I have previously stated in the past, weather you make or buy...at the end of the day we are all nerds in costumes
Pet Peeve: people who take my sewing projects then do them wrong... like its a kimono...its supposed to be overly long.... and another is Yuki Cross' 2nd ball gown...why are you so hard to draw -_- and i'm running out of paper....geh....
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It all really depends on the compromises and trade-offs a person wants to make. I would never say that sewing it yourself is automatically "cheap" - unless you're willing to make compromises to make it cheaper (which you can do when buying as well). My materials still cost $2-300 per costume on average, but I don't have to pay for labour - if I wanted the same materials I'd still have to pay for labour on top of them.

Buying can be cheaper or more economic when the costume is popular enough that it's semi/mass-produced and the seller has discounts on bulk fabric and such. Of course, a lot of the semi/mass-produced ones are hit-or-miss quality and not fantastic - but you do not have to spend time making them, so that can be a fair trade-off. Not everyone cares about having the most shiniest shiny and that's okay, there's no shame in having fun in a mass-produced costume if you're having fun, especially if it's the only costume you can get or justify purchasing.

And there are items that are mass-produced for general consumption that are cheaper to buy than to make - like plain t-shirts. I bought a bathrobe for my Arthur Dent costume for $20 shipped on eBay - that might not even cover the fabric to make it at consumer prices - and I'd still have to spend time to sew it. I'm buying boots for my current costume instead of making them or boot covers - because although they're not perfect, they're a lot cheaper and faster than doing so.

It can also help to try making small props and items that don't require a "work space" if money is an issue. Even if you don't have room for a sewing machine you might be able to make a small thing like a pendant, circlet, et cetera - that will easily knock off $20+ ! Another idea is thrift stores and the like - and it works especially well if you are open to modifying the garments you find - like adding a stripe or design or cutting off sleeves, et cetera.

It's funny, I really don't even enjoy sewing (when it comes to the sewing machine, I don't mind hand-sewing) - but it's something I do because I know I can't afford to pay someone else to do the same thing. I know I can't afford the quality of work I produce and to me spending time is something I'd rather do than compromise and pay someone to do a lesser quality of work. If someone else is happy to make that trade off, nothing against them. It just depends on what a person wants out of the hobby - and it's always important to remember that there was a time for all of us when we "couldn't sew a seam straight" or "didn't know how to install a zipper" or anything like that ! I think a lot of people feel pressure to have perfect costumes now that cosplay is becoming more well-know, but it shouldn't have to be that way and the only way to get better is by being not-so-good first.

PS - what happened to the zippers ? It should be a matter of taking a seam ripper to the thread holding them on and then buying a new zipper in the same size and following the fold-out instructions on the zipper package. If those are confusing (which they can be if you've never done it before) - YouTube and other tutorials are great !

I think a great thing about the internet is that you can learn to do so many things without having to go searching for a certain book or leaving the house !
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